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what shaking everybody

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thank you very very much for those that

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perhaps have been sitting here live

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waiting the whole time if you're just

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coming in congratulations you didn't

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have to wait or perhaps you're watching

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this back

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it's nice and easy for you but for those

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that have hung out for the past 40

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minutes waiting for this this ride to

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kick off

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thank you very very much i want to give

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a shout out to sunsaver from nhh for

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hanging out tammy you're always here

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supporting the garage we appreciate you

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so much uh bonnie prefer not to say i

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know you're in the other room doing

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stuff so no worries uh we know you're

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listening in zero cool thank you for

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showing up we got van gogh in here

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tonight we also have the paranormal chop

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shop which is sunny and lewis they're

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over there you guys can check them out

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on fridays we just were in there last

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night and he has a he has oh man i

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forgot her name i think it's next week

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for him could be wrong he also has a

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witch she's from northern uh ireland i

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believe we'll be coming to hang out with

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uh let's see if i miss anybody else let

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me see van gogh sunsaver looks like i i

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might have missed some other ones if i

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did oh chris home you're in here what's

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up brother how's it going

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uh if i miss anybody else who's popping

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in and out i apologize andrew what's

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happening brother i hope you're safe out

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on the road i know you're traveling

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around not trucking around out there

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it's always fun to hear what the

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sightings that you've seen along the way

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um excuse me

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jose welcome red panda koala

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this one surprised me the most the other

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day when i heard that he knew who i was

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i was like how the french toast

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does red panda koala

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know me right and that's all thanks to

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ben and joe over here at the ufo garage

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podcast uh they've done a great job

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building a little community that brings

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us all together i know i get to hang out

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so many of you guys over at sor uh in

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the chats as well so we really

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appreciate it

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i also want to give everybody a heads up

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really quick guitar slinger welcome if i

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do break up a little bit i was telling

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sonny i think my internet might be

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having issues as you know the ones that

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saw the update take 40 minutes so i go

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in and out

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please i apologize hopefully lady anne

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will sound good and she can cover for me

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uh also wanted to say two last week with

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uh with karina's christina gomez i

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appreciate you guys hanging in there

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with me because i had a ton of cough

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medicine in me and i was i was

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struggling so much just to read words at

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the end so i appreciate you guys for

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hanging out and making it jim what's

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shakin welcome

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um and really quick too for next week i

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have ashley will be coming on and she

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also has her podcast you guys can check

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out it is uh wednesdays we talk weird

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uh she's really into cryptozoology

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that's like her bread and butter um and

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then the halloweens will kind of be

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continuing that halloween vibe and trend

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uh moving along that way so i want to

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thank each and every one of you as we

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get ready to get going you guys know the

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what happens in the van

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stays in the van right we're gonna go

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travel to cosmos and beyond

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and we're gonna have a great time also

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really quick too guys super chat is open

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if you guys want to support the show or

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support the garage keep the lights on

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here in the garage keep gasoline in old

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we appreciate that you can also become a

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monthly subscriber i think for like 1.99

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you can join the uh space fart committee

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it is so you guys can be part of them we

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had a new member on there i forgot to

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catch the most ways back you guys can do

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that if you'd like

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as well as support uh anything you want

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to do as far as merchandise they're

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always updating

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one last thing because i do like this at

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least mention it for him

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let's see

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we're gonna make this happen guys it's

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manscaped clear for tankoff joe and ben

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have told you your balls will thank you

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or if you're ben you can put that toner

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on your neck we don't know why he does

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it joe i'm right there with you

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your balls aren't on your neck i don't

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know what he's doing but

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ben we know you have a sensitive neck so

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you do you

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that's completely okay uh the the the

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code for manscape is ufo garage all caps

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all one word you get 20 off your total

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order plus free shipping and as i've

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been saying for a while treat your

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family jewels like the jewels they truly

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without anything else to add here oh let

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me do this for you guys too

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let's get this out of the way and that's

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a great way to support them that'll be

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if we can get that going eventually long

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term that'll open up all kinds of

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opportunities plus i think everyone

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needs a little help going to the

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venturing to the nether regions that is

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always a good idea to to use

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professional tools that when doing that

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so our guest tonight

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lady anne here we go let's see oops

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it just closed out on me hopefully i'm

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still live for you guys

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if not i'm going to switch it over to

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the phone but hopefully it's hanging i'm

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telling you what

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tonight tonight's gonna be you guys are

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just gonna have to hang in there with me

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we're gonna see what happens

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all right i think i'm back up but if not

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i'm gonna use my phone just to be safe

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so lady anne was born with the

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paranormal in her blood

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she has had experiences beginning with

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her earliest memories

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from ghosts

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shadow entities sasquatch encounters and

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more

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lady anne is a reiki master intuitive

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tarot reader and vampire witch who loves

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to dive into the spiritual realm

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so with that guys let me bring on the

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one and only and extremely patient lady

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anne

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and welcome to the show finally right

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only five years later we finally get you

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no worries these things happen

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oh i tell you i tell you i i was you and

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i were talking obviously i had to let

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you know i'm like hey i don't know

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i'm backstage i don't know what's going

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like this is all going to work out just

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in your vibes and i was like oh heck

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backdrop my goodness thank you there's

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real candles

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yeah yeah they're real

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very nice very nice um really quick then

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when everybody's checking everything out

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um i do have some of this here link to

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the bottom guys i'll share it in the

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chat but where can people find you um

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besides a little bit that i mentioned

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where they can support you if you'd like

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to mention some of that

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yeah so my podcast is the caravan

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library of lore and you can type that in

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on facebook and twitter and instagram

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i own that as well and you can find that

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heck yeah and like i said i'll make sure

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i put that in the chat here i'll make

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sure i link that up for you guys so

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you're able to click on the link

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and uh one other thing i know it might

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now that way we don't have to bring it

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to your your fangs or is this in regard

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story on your fangs and i just um you

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know send them over to vamporium.shop

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and so um yeah so that's where you can

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find uh all kinds of vampire related

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very nice very nice oh we got ufo garage

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in here just putting that out for me i

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appreciate it thank you more than likely

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ben you should be out there doing dad

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stuff with the new baby congratulations

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once again ben just had a baby in the

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past a week and a half here or so so

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i don't know congratulations he's still

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awake i know we're all so excited for

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him um but yeah we have that in the link

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so if you guys would like to click on

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that and i'll make sure i share the

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other link as well for anybody there so

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let's get going here i guess uh

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one thing i'd love to do is is kind of

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ask you i guess we could you know you

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even mentioned it there in your bio a

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little bit this really for you you know

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we always say let's start at the

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beginning people like what are we

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talking like when i was born

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but it's pretty close with that with you

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so is this is that where it really began

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was that early on for you in your life

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or is having these um

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interesting and unexplained uh

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phenomenon is that is that a better term

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for this phenomenon however it expressed

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itself to you was that early on in life

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i mean my very first memory

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from what i remember and what my dad and

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mother have told me because

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when i was born my mom had me but then

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so

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when

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she did that he moved back in with his

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folks

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and he had to go to work and so he found

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a babysitter so i went over next door to

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the sitter's house and i remember

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i couldn't i couldn't speak yet

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and

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there was this patio window

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and out from the patio window there's

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just this rolling farm field and it

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would get flooded you know

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and it's now a wetlands

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uh they don't farm that anymore because

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of it getting flooded well i remember

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sitting in front of this window

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and i remember looking out and i

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remember seeing the colors and i

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remember the water and how it shined off

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the water and i remember thinking to

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myself

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wow

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i came back

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and that is my earliest memory

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so

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then you know from there i remember

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being in my crib um and i remember

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seeing

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you could kind of see down the hallway

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from my room

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and you would see kind of just the

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fingertips of a hand that would be it

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was like a shadow entity type of a hand

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that was on the hallway wall um

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so and that's i mean

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i don't remember a time when i didn't

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have like a quote-unquote normal life

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that didn't have something weird

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happening

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so with that have you ever i guess

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have you always known one thing that

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really strikes me there is you mentioned

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you said you had the thought i'm back

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right i mean to me this sounds like

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prior to perhaps you've been able to

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even speak is that we're you know more

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of this being a thought right you didn't

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go and say that to somebody i guess

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right now

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yeah no i i couldn't speak and formulate

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those kinds of those words and and

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sentences at that point this was just a

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now

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in your mind i guess and if you don't my

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mask in the process of that idea of i'm

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back was that something you came to

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understand more now or did you just kind

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of always know that going along in life

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and just didn't really express it to

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anyone else

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uh you know i just

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it's hard to explain when you just kind

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of have a knowing

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so i just always kind of knew that um

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i've been here before

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and that i came back and

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yeah i just kind of always went with it

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and then i learned about reincarnation

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when i was older and and yeah so

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very nice

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so with that i guess headed through i

347
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guess so you had these two experiences

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very very early on and like i want to

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say roughly give or take two and under

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would you say was that is that a fair

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assessment

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yeah and after that were things pretty

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normal for a childhood did you have a

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very average childhood or would you say

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it's a bit unique in its own sense

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uh it was pretty normal

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i mean

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and my dad and we didn't do a whole lot

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i mean they they were raw calendars and

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they collected postcards and

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went to work and and uh then you know

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ended up building their own businesses

363
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and um so

364
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life with them was normal

365
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but i was always experiencing things

366
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that i didn't quite uh understand i mean

367
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i remember

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watching uh because i loved harry

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houdini anything that dealt with houdini

370
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and so i was watching this one episode

371
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and it was talking about how you know

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the seances and stuff and gosh i can't

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i think maybe i was seven at the time

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possibly if i remember right and i

375
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remember going up to my grandparents and

376
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being like when you die will you come

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back and say goodbye to me like

378
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and the looks on their faces oh my gosh

379
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i felt so bad later on

380
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and uh and that was actually when i

381
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heard my very first ghost story because

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my grandfather

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told me um he goes you know well sure

384
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sure i will if i can you know

385
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and uh

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he said that he believed in ghosts

387
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because after his mother died

388
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they had went up there and

389
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they were waiting to to for the funeral

390
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the next day

391
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and that night he was laying in bed and

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um

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he saw an apparition at the foot of his

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bed and he knew

395
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just instinctively that this was his

396
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mother and he felt peace you know come

397
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over him

398
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watched it dissipate and then

399
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it was it was over and

400
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later on um because he passed away in

401
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2011

402
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i did have

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a couple dreams where he was there

404
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and he told me some things that i was

405
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able to verify and i really believed and

406
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had that knowing that you know

407
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it was really him and he was really

408
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there and then

409
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even after that one of my children um

410
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they were

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so

412
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when i was really little there was those

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coin

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little egg that would come out and there

415
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would be like a

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dinosaur or a bug or something inside of

417
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it well i loved those and so grandpa

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would always go and he'd do that at the

419
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at the store and he'd come home

420
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and i'd be waiting there patiently and

421
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then he'd get this egg and he'd pull it

422
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out of his pocket and he would give it

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to me

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well after he passed this is um

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a week or two after he passed away

426
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uh one of my children who was about

427
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i want to say three or four at the time

428
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comes up to me mommy mommy

429
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and i'm like what and they're like

430
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and i was just

431
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i mean it was

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yeah

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pretty intense

434
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if i'm understanding this correctly then

435
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it sounds like

436
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and only reason i'm kind of jumping

437
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ahead is since you brought it up a

438
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little bit with your children is this

439
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something you've been very open with

440
00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:41,440
them about i know most parents if you if

441
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you see a ghost on the tv or the kids

442
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see something and they get a little

443
00:16:48,150 --> 00:16:46,079
nervous we're like oh that's that's just

444
00:16:49,749 --> 00:16:48,160
tv it's not real do you have a different

445
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approach with your with your children in

446
00:16:54,310 --> 00:16:52,240
this manner for is that realm

447
00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:54,320
yeah i do uh that's actually something

448
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that i kind of go into on my podcast

449
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because

450
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i think that you are i mean

451
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this is an opinionated opinion

452
00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:07,520
i think that you are doing your child a

453
00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:10,000
disservice to say oh yeah this stuff

454
00:17:13,990 --> 00:17:12,079
doesn't exist because

455
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what are you gonna do when something

456
00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:16,000
like that actually legitimately happens

457
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to one of your children now they're even

458
00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:19,600
more afraid because they trusted what

459
00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:22,160
you said and now

460
00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:24,720
this very real thing happened and then

461
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and then that can do this domino effect

462
00:17:30,150 --> 00:17:28,079
of now they're thinking that they're

463
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crazy you know they're questioning

464
00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:33,280
themselves and they feel lied to by you

465
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so with me i

466
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i mean i started learning well i went to

467
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a healing group when i was 15 because my

468
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dad was attending there so i started to

469
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go with him and this is when i started

470
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to learn how to do reiki so

471
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taking what i learned from healing group

472
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and then when i became a mom i even took

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my children there

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um and so i have you know i've got

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crystals and i do sage and stuff like

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that i don't hide any of it from them

477
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and it was funny because when they were

478
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when they were really little like

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toddlers

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i remember they were running around in

481
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the grass and one was pretending to be a

482
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ghost and then the other one was running

483
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around with their hand up like this sage

484
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sage sage you know

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to try to

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get rid of the ghost and uh you know so

487
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it's been um

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normalized in my home

489
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uh but i didn't

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that was the biggest thing is is i

491
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didn't really go into any of my

492
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particular experiences with them just

493
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because

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i didn't want to influence them or

495
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you know that way it was just one of

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those things where if they had an

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experience they could come to me and say

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hey

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you know this is what happened and i

500
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would you know be like okay well let's

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talk it out you know so

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i think that's a great thing personally

503
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because i know that's something that uh

504
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we've joked about uh ben and joe joked

505
00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:02,480
one time on here about uh about santa

506
00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:04,400
claus and we were just i can't man was

507
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this

508
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i can't remember i was so out of it last

509
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weekend i care if it was last weekend

510
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but we were joking saying it's almost

511
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that

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if you want to use the term conspiracy

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theory or whatever it might be santa

514
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claus is kind of the first one where we

515
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we kind of go along with it and there is

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a moment where maybe they have their

517
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whole reality is they know it changes or

518
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shifts

519
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i don't think it does as much

520
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damage than maybe it does i don't know

521
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but i think that with this idea the

522
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paranormal

523
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or if they have an experience with ufos

524
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or anything encrypted

525
00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:40,880
that is some earth-shaking stuff that i

526
00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:42,640
think it like you're saying as a parent

527
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if we were at least open to them to say

528
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hey if this happens

529
00:19:50,549 --> 00:19:49,120
it's okay like you're not crazy you know

530
00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:50,559
because what do you do right if you're a

531
00:19:53,990 --> 00:19:52,000
kid i know i was raised in a very

532
00:19:55,510 --> 00:19:54,000
religious household so any of that stuff

533
00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:55,520
was chalked up anything was chalked up

534
00:19:59,750 --> 00:19:57,440
to either angel or demon there was no in

535
00:20:01,830 --> 00:19:59,760
between there was no option for anything

536
00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:01,840
right so those are the options so if

537
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you've seen something that's making you

538
00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:04,320
question that

539
00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:06,159
and it doesn't fit angel or demon then

540
00:20:08,710 --> 00:20:07,280
you're like

541
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i guess i just don't talk about that

542
00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:10,320
right so i i think that's a great thing

543
00:20:12,390 --> 00:20:11,679
you're doing for your children that way

544
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to

545
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and again like you said that's just your

546
00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:15,360
opinion everybody raise their children

547
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:16,400
how they want to raise them i mean i

548
00:20:19,669 --> 00:20:17,760
don't want to be necessarily told to

549
00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:19,679
raise my kids so you you do you booze

550
00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:21,760
right

551
00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:24,000
exactly exactly

552
00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:26,240
so now going back then you mentioned an

553
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interesting thing that i and i

554
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i hope i'm not assuming something that's

555
00:20:34,950 --> 00:20:32,960
incorrect but you said your mom gave you

556
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to your debt was what was that process

557
00:20:37,510 --> 00:20:36,159
about i guess because you used to

558
00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:37,520
imagine i was like two right and this

559
00:20:41,029 --> 00:20:38,640
has been something that's been going on

560
00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:41,039
in your family lineage for a while if i

561
00:20:49,909 --> 00:20:43,039
understood correctly

562
00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:52,549
i ended up becoming my family's uh

563
00:20:57,029 --> 00:20:54,080
genealogist

564
00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:57,039
and i found out that

565
00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:03,430
there there's been um

566
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:06,720
many generations where the women

567
00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:08,960
didn't keep their children they gave

568
00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:10,480
them up at

569
00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:13,440
one or three years old and um

570
00:21:18,950 --> 00:21:17,360
i i'm the first one to keep my children

571
00:21:22,630 --> 00:21:18,960
um

572
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:22,640
wow in the maternal line uh so

573
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:25,600
but i i've since you know uh reconnected

574
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:28,559
with them and um this just through

575
00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:31,039
through talking uh and and different

576
00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:32,960
research as well about what can be

577
00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:35,360
carried through maternal lines and

578
00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:36,799
something that i found out that was

579
00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:39,200
really interesting is that for me my

580
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:41,679
spirit totem is the wolf

581
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:44,880
and i found out that you know that's

582
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:47,600
the same with my biological mother my

583
00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:49,440
biological grandmother

584
00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:50,400
um

585
00:21:55,029 --> 00:21:53,120
before my i found my uh biological

586
00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:55,039
grandmother and before she passed we

587
00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:57,600
talked about her mother who she had

588
00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:59,760
found and was able to reconnect with for

589
00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:01,440
a while and she had

590
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:05,120
ties to the wolf as well so it's been

591
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:06,799
interesting

592
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:08,240
yeah

593
00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:09,360
well

594
00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:10,320
so

595
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:11,440
i guess

596
00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:13,760
in that process of and i don't want to i

597
00:22:15,909 --> 00:22:14,960
guess you and i talked about earlier i

598
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:15,919
don't want to delve into anything you're

599
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:18,080
not comfortable sharing or expressing

600
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:18,610
but

601
00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:19,840
[Music]

602
00:22:23,110 --> 00:22:21,520
i'm just making an assumption here so

603
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:23,120
that's not that's not fair to me but

604
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:25,360
that had been a little bit i mean it had

605
00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:26,960
some sort of an impact in your life to

606
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:28,320
to have your mother

607
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:31,200
give you up um do you think that that

608
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:32,640
really drew your relationship with your

609
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:34,240
father much closer or did it just make

610
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:37,410
you more of an independent individual

611
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:39,679
[Music]

612
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:43,919
i i love my father very much um

613
00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:45,440
i

614
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:46,240
we

615
00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:52,400
was very much a

616
00:23:00,070 --> 00:22:57,760
individual child doing my own thing um

617
00:23:02,070 --> 00:23:00,080
you know i i spent most of my time in

618
00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:02,080
the basement writing on a tire you know

619
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:04,400
writing stories out on a typewriter

620
00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:09,360
um and and researching and reading so

621
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:11,120
very interesting uh really quick because

622
00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:12,960
i do i we have lots to cover tonight too

623
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:15,200
so um john hudson here thank you by the

624
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:16,400
way brother for hanging out in the chat

625
00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:18,240
he has a question for you said wait are

626
00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:20,080
those fang real and i believe you get my

627
00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:21,760
things but hey yeah he wants so if you

628
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:23,600
want really quick people are asking so

629
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:26,000
we'll talk about it now right

630
00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:28,960
right right right um okay so

631
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:32,720
my fangs i'm what i'm going to say is

632
00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:35,679
my things were made by father sebastian

633
00:23:40,430 --> 00:23:38,400
and if you are interested in fangs i

634
00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:40,440
would suggest going to

635
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:42,799
vamporium.shop and you can check them

636
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:44,559
out from there

637
00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:46,559
there you go and i just dropped the link

638
00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:48,080
in the bottom there so hopefully you

639
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:49,919
guys will to click on that and check

640
00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:51,360
that out if you'd like

641
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,559
uh and that's definitely something we're

642
00:23:56,789 --> 00:23:54,240
gonna bring up i mean i would love to

643
00:23:57,990 --> 00:23:56,799
get into but did you have i guess moving

644
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:58,000
along in your life here a little bit did

645
00:24:01,990 --> 00:23:59,760
you have any major experiences that you

646
00:24:03,750 --> 00:24:02,000
can remember um say in the teenage years

647
00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:03,760
you know we talk a lot of times about

648
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:06,799
specifically why females right around

649
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:08,880
puberty really having this attachment to

650
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:10,799
the thinning of the veils or whatever

651
00:24:14,710 --> 00:24:12,159
did you have any experiences at that

652
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:14,720
time in your life or was it more

653
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:16,960
more down the road at that time

654
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:25,590
gosh 14ish i would say i'm actually uh

655
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:28,400
so i am writing a book

656
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,880
and uh i was just announced

657
00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:32,880
as one of the authors over on beyond the

658
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:34,480
fray publishing

659
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:36,720
and um

660
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:37,520
i

661
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:47,039
november

662
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:48,720
so

663
00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:52,640
um

664
00:24:59,190 --> 00:24:55,039
but it did start uh

665
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:02,789
13 i would say ish

666
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:05,760
where where things really started to

667
00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:08,080
to turn you know i mean growing up i

668
00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:10,000
always saw the shadow entities in the

669
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:11,200
hallway

670
00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:12,080
um

671
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:15,039
and everything uh but to

672
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:17,200
i mean

673
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:20,320
i ended up making a ouija board and

674
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:21,679
i didn't know what i was gonna begin

675
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:22,320
with

676
00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:25,200
right that's where it always begins

677
00:25:28,030 --> 00:25:27,440
right right like a ouija board it's the

678
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:28,040
thing yeah

679
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:30,559
[Laughter]

680
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:34,320
exactly exactly so i made one

681
00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:37,520
and i had a really profound experience

682
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:39,279
after that because

683
00:25:42,549 --> 00:25:41,039
pretty much um

684
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:42,559
i didn't think it worked

685
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:44,559
and thought nothing of it

686
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:45,679
so

687
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:47,760
uh that night you know go to sleep no

688
00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:49,120
big deal

689
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:50,240
and

690
00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:53,679
the next night i felt

691
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:55,840
just uncomfortable but i wasn't sure

692
00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:57,360
exactly why

693
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:58,720
and then

694
00:26:01,669 --> 00:26:00,640
you know each night it seemed to get

695
00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:01,679
worse

696
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:03,440
until one night

697
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:05,440
i was you know i was in the bathroom

698
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:06,720
brushing my teeth doing the whole

699
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:09,840
bedtime routine thing

700
00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:11,600
and it sounded like somebody whispered

701
00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:14,320
my name in my ear like they were just

702
00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:15,679
right there

703
00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:16,799
and

704
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:19,919
you know i froze

705
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:22,000
and i just i got out of there as quick

706
00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:23,200
as i could

707
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:26,080
and everything was was okayish for the

708
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:27,840
rest of the night like that had me on

709
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:30,159
edge but it was the night after that

710
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:31,760
that um

711
00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:33,360
in

712
00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:39,039
and i

713
00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:42,400
in my mind's eye i could see this like

714
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:45,840
shadow entity standing next to my bed

715
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:46,960
and

716
00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,279
it you know it was a it was this male

717
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:51,360
energy and then i could

718
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:53,360
physically feel

719
00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:56,159
hands holding my legs down

720
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:57,039
um

721
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:58,559
wow

722
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:00,320
you know and so i'm laying there and i'm

723
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:02,640
just trying to to barely breathe you

724
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:04,799
know just if you don't breathe maybe it

725
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:06,640
won't see that you know that it's there

726
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:09,279
you know kind of a thing and uh

727
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:11,679
i i don't know how i did it but

728
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:14,320
eventually i passed out and i was you

729
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:15,760
know asleep for the rest of the night

730
00:27:21,909 --> 00:27:18,480
and then um

731
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:21,919
you know uh i ended up doing i

732
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:22,960
so

733
00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:26,240
my folks they attended the the methodist

734
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:27,679
church in town

735
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:30,559
and so i ended up telling my grandfather

736
00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:32,320
what had happened

737
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:34,320
and i you know thought it was all my

738
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:35,919
fault because of the whole ouija board

739
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:36,880
thing

740
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,279
so he had uh you know the priest come

741
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:41,520
and bless the house and the property and

742
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,880
and everything

743
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:44,799
well um

744
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:47,520
that night there was a youth group that

745
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:50,240
i also ended up going to

746
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,279
and

747
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:53,440
that night

748
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:54,640
i wasn't

749
00:27:58,710 --> 00:27:56,080
you know i was sitting there going gosh

750
00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:58,720
did did any of this work is is this

751
00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:00,320
really is it going to be okay because

752
00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:02,559
last night was so intense and i was

753
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,720
laying in my bed i was laying on my um

754
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:06,399
left side

755
00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:08,240
so there was a window

756
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:10,720
you know against the wall my bed and

757
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:13,679
then my door was off to my right

758
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:17,039
so i'm laying and i can see this like

759
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:20,000
pulsating white and blue light

760
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:21,440
and it's just kind of slow and it's

761
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:24,960
pulsating and i'm like well that's weird

762
00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:25,679
so

763
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:27,200
you know i was thinking could it could

764
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:29,600
it be the reflection of my dad's tv

765
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:32,159
in my room and i was like well no that's

766
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:33,840
too far because it's like down the

767
00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:36,480
hallway and then the hallway turns

768
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:37,360
so

769
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:44,230
and there is this giant bright ball of

770
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:46,320
light just

771
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:47,120
just

772
00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:49,279
floating at the end of my bed

773
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:50,559
and

774
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:54,080
i didn't feel fear or anything but i did

775
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:57,279
sit up and when i sat up to go towards

776
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:59,440
it it was just gone

777
00:29:02,230 --> 00:29:00,399
just

778
00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:02,240
like it was never there

779
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:03,360
and so

780
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:04,880
i kind of just sat there for a little

781
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:06,080
bit

782
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:08,159
and i laid back down

783
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:10,240
and then i had this feeling of peace

784
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:12,880
wash over me i mean i've never felt that

785
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:15,600
sense or before

786
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:17,520
and nothing nothing ever happened

787
00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:21,039
anymore in regards to you know that

788
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:23,440
man and holding me down and and all of

789
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:26,240
that

790
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:28,320
so chris holm brings up a great a great

791
00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:29,600
point here do you think that it had to

792
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:30,799
do with the

793
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:32,080
he said you know didn't close the

794
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:33,520
session do you think that that looking

795
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:34,880
back knowing what you know now do you

796
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:37,360
think that that's that's possible

797
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:39,360
yeah yeah no i think that i just didn't

798
00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:42,799
uh i didn't handle it right i didn't

799
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:45,919
do the protections over it or myself i

800
00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:47,840
didn't close it i had no clue what i was

801
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:49,120
doing

802
00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:50,320
right

803
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:52,159
you know i think that

804
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:53,760
it's funny to well let's i guess let's

805
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:54,960
hit on that for a second while we're

806
00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:57,039
here uh ouija boards are always

807
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:58,720
we're in halloween right guys we're

808
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,240
we're in the month of halloween let's

809
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:02,240
say that everybody gets extra spooky

810
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:04,000
everybody's into the paranormal

811
00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:05,520
everybody's into the ghost at the time

812
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:07,600
and it's we know that yeah i would say

813
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:09,600
that they're the the bandwagon fans and

814
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:11,360
i might be even considered that but i do

815
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:12,480
admit

816
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:13,919
there's something about this time of

817
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:15,120
year and it starts right around this

818
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,320
week for me it's not it doesn't happen

819
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:18,480
the beginning of october for me but

820
00:30:23,510 --> 00:30:20,880
right about the second third week once

821
00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:23,520
the air gets crisp like i got a nice

822
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:25,120
crisp breeze outside today it's it's

823
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:27,600
getting chilly it's rainy when it gets

824
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:30,559
like that then i'm in the the paranormal

825
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:32,720
or the halloween spirit as it were

826
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:33,440
and

827
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:35,120
one thing that always comes up at this

828
00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,559
time of the year is the ouija boards

829
00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:38,720
time and time and time again so in your

830
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:40,640
opinion do you what do you think yay or

831
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:43,360
nayana on a ouija board

832
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,480
i own two of them

833
00:30:47,909 --> 00:30:46,480
[Laughter]

834
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:47,919
and uh

835
00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:48,960
yeah

836
00:30:51,669 --> 00:30:50,399
i think that you just have to know what

837
00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:51,679
you're doing it's all about intention

838
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:53,520
you know i later on

839
00:30:57,750 --> 00:30:55,600
going to healing group and learning how

840
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:57,760
to work with those energies and learning

841
00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:00,080
about cord cutting and protection and

842
00:31:03,909 --> 00:31:01,840
everything um

843
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:03,919
it changed my opinion on a lot of stuff

844
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:05,600
so yes i

845
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:09,840
i do own ouija boards i will use them um

846
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:11,600
i've went live with the caravan a couple

847
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:14,799
times doing a live ouija board session

848
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:16,000
so

849
00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:18,880
very nice yeah yeah

850
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:20,880
again i will say right off the bat

851
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:23,279
that's something i'm generally uh in

852
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:25,840
that that realm i'm i'm ignorant to i've

853
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:27,600
never done a deep dive i've never gone

854
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:30,799
in and studied a lot but i do know that

855
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:32,399
it was something that was deeply and i

856
00:31:35,909 --> 00:31:34,320
mean deeply feared my household growing

857
00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:35,919
up because my mom had some experiences

858
00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:37,120
with it and

859
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,440
dating back in the family lineage

860
00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:41,360
my one grandmother on my dad on my

861
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:44,159
grandpa's side or my mom's dad's side

862
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:45,600
was a witch and stuff that came from

863
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:46,960
ireland so that was like this thing in

864
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:48,399
the family right there they're like oh

865
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:50,720
we're all cursed wow whatever

866
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:51,519
but

867
00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:53,679
to me now looking at it i definitely

868
00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:55,120
think that it's like many things and

869
00:31:59,669 --> 00:31:57,039
this is just guys my own this is just

870
00:32:01,830 --> 00:31:59,679
william's opinion this isn't you know i

871
00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:01,840
think it's just a tool and a resource

872
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:03,279
right so it's all about how we use the

873
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:04,240
tool

874
00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:05,600
i think it's the intentions behind

875
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:07,519
things and i definitely believe though

876
00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:09,760
one thing i did respect growing up was i

877
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,679
never teased the spirits as it were

878
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:13,440
right that that realm that was something

879
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:15,919
i believed in and i respected and i

880
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:17,519
understood that if you

881
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:19,760
are not protecting yourself

882
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:22,799
there are attachments out there and and

883
00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:25,120
that was something that i find

884
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:26,640
not always but sometimes younger people

885
00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:28,799
don't take very seriously and they joke

886
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:29,840
about it

887
00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:31,919
and i don't know teach their own but

888
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:33,519
i've always respected it even if i

889
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:35,360
didn't fear it i have respect for it

890
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:36,880
because i understand that

891
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:38,880
there are things out there that

892
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:40,559
the the veil that we pretend that

893
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:42,080
doesn't exist is a very real thing and

894
00:32:44,870 --> 00:32:43,360
once you experience something that you

895
00:32:46,389 --> 00:32:44,880
can't explain

896
00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:46,399
i mean like you've gone through that has

897
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:47,919
to be life-altering

898
00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:50,240
so that's just my two senses

899
00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:52,000
do you think you want to add more is

900
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:53,600
that wrong as far as the ouija board

901
00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:57,669
no

902
00:33:02,789 --> 00:32:59,679
[Laughter]

903
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:02,799
no i just i i agree with you 110 you

904
00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:04,159
know i was just

905
00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:05,840
it was when you were talking about you

906
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:08,640
know when you experienced something

907
00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:11,360
like real and and how it's life-changing

908
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:12,559
because

909
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:14,640
it that's definitely happened with me

910
00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:17,600
and then it's it's so funny because

911
00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:19,600
even if you go through things even if

912
00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:21,919
you've experienced ghosts or

913
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:24,320
aliens or whatever

914
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:26,720
you can still experience something else

915
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:29,120
and have it be life altering i don't

916
00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:32,080
think that i'll ever get used to

917
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:33,200
any of it

918
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,870
yeah i mean i i suppose too

919
00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:40,399
with yourself so

920
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:41,679
i guess jumping back into your life here

921
00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:42,799
a little bit so we kind of left off

922
00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:44,399
right around 14 you're going to this

923
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,559
experience you had the orb did you ever

924
00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:48,720
have an interpretation of that i mean

925
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:50,880
did you in your own thoughts now what do

926
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,110
at that point

927
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:00,070
so

928
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:07,110
being raised by my paternal side

929
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:09,839
it was my so my dad's

930
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:11,599
mother's mother

931
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:14,399
she was like the matriarch of the family

932
00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:17,200
and everybody attended church with her i

933
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:19,760
remember being baptized you know to the

934
00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:21,760
to the church that they went to

935
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:24,800
and uh after i was born so

936
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:26,399
um

937
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:28,720
it was very

938
00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:31,440
at least with my grandma and grandpa it

939
00:34:35,510 --> 00:34:32,639
was more

940
00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:35,520
of your christian viewpoint in the home

941
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:37,679
my dad never really talked about it too

942
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:40,240
much um the only thing my dad ever

943
00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:42,560
really said at least up until i hit a

944
00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:45,119
certain age was that

945
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:48,560
i don't know i don't want to be

946
00:34:54,149 --> 00:34:51,520
just just recounting what my dad said

947
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:54,159
you know in his opinion you didn't have

948
00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:57,200
to go to a church to worship god

949
00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:58,480
and so

950
00:35:02,390 --> 00:34:59,680
um

951
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:02,400
so that was his opinion and so for me

952
00:35:05,829 --> 00:35:03,680
um

953
00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:05,839
at the time i was thinking oh my gosh

954
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:06,640
this

955
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:08,880
must be an angel it must be an angel

956
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:11,119
because we had somebody come and

957
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:13,040
a preacher come and bless the house and

958
00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:15,680
then i had went to this church and so

959
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:17,280
you know now and now there's this ball

960
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:20,400
of light at the end of my bed so i i

961
00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:23,680
equated it with um an an an angel

962
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:25,680
angelic energy

963
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:27,040
nice

964
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:28,160
that's so funny you bring that up

965
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:30,000
because i i definitely relate to that i

966
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:31,760
i've talked to ben about this quite a

967
00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:34,000
bit and joe before in the past as far as

968
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:36,079
the experiences and it's it's weird

969
00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:38,079
because you can be so sad in your ways

970
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:39,520
sometimes and not even realize i think

971
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:40,960
we're all a bit programmed or

972
00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:42,400
conditioned

973
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:43,839
regardless of how you're raised right

974
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:45,119
because

975
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,880
you're going to have this set of ways

976
00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:48,240
that they've raised you and that's going

977
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:50,240
to affect your view on on the world

978
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:51,040
right

979
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:52,079
but

980
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:54,400
to hear you say that far is is the same

981
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:56,000
oh it's very similar to what i went

982
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,480
through at least um and i don't think

983
00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:00,240
people i guess you've unless it's like

984
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:01,920
an experience or if you can experience

985
00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:04,000
something and i can't claim that i have

986
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:06,240
um or haven't gone into really all that

987
00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:07,440
i don't think that that's the same as

988
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:09,440
seeing something you know it's not

989
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:11,680
you can't really relate to it unless

990
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:13,920
you've been through it so

991
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:16,640
it's very interesting how in religion

992
00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:17,920
and it's not just christianity it could

993
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:19,599
be any of them they always have a

994
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:21,920
solution but the solution seems to also

995
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:24,000
be a bit binding at times and that's

996
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:26,800
just my little experience with it but

997
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:28,560
sometimes it can close

998
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:31,200
these these avenues that what what could

999
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:33,040
be going on and it kind of puts some

1000
00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:34,400
binders on you know like the horse

1001
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:36,320
blinders back in the day kept the horse

1002
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:37,599
right right and what was in front of it

1003
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:39,760
yes exactly and for some people that's

1004
00:36:42,790 --> 00:36:41,280
what they want and like i said i always

1005
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:42,800
tell people you you live the life you

1006
00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:45,680
think you need to live here right um but

1007
00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:48,400
it's i have found with some of these a

1008
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:50,480
lot actually of experiencers

1009
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:52,880
seem to have had a couple common trends

1010
00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:55,359
which are some sort of um

1011
00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:58,160
interesting childhood experience

1012
00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:00,560
a military family or background and a

1013
00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:03,119
religious background those three things

1014
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:04,720
and then i could be entirely wrong about

1015
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:05,760
that because i'm sure people have had

1016
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:06,880
experiences that don't have those things

1017
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:09,520
in her life but i found him listening to

1018
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:11,200
these stories of people those

1019
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:12,720
correlations seem to come up a lot and

1020
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:13,839
i'm sure that we could think of a couple

1021
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:15,520
other ones but

1022
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:17,680
that seems to be there consistently and

1023
00:37:20,829 --> 00:37:19,440
i believe you had at least two of those

1024
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:20,839
right two of the three

1025
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:24,160
probably i i had my my father was in the

1026
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:25,440
air force

1027
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:27,520
oh see so yeah

1028
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:34,150
yep yep there you go yeah no and that

1029
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:38,400
that's a whole another basket of weird

1030
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:39,280
as well so

1031
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:41,040
[Laughter]

1032
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:42,720
yeah heck yeah

1033
00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:44,320
now well i guess i mean you brought it

1034
00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:46,160
up a little bit so let's hit on how so

1035
00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:47,839
far is uh the basket weird which we are

1036
00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:49,760
all about the weird around here okay i

1037
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:51,599
end every show telling people to stay

1038
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:53,760
curious and keep it weird uh matter of

1039
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:56,400
fact you're in oregon correct

1040
00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:57,680
i am

1041
00:38:01,510 --> 00:38:00,000
okay so you isn't it portland that's all

1042
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:01,520
about that isn't that like their their

1043
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:03,599
their model or whatever isn't it it's

1044
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:05,200
stay stay strange or keep it or

1045
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:06,480
something like that

1046
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:08,320
keep portland weird

1047
00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:09,760
yeah there we go

1048
00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:12,400
that's it i avoid portland

1049
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,240
i i hear yeah i know it hasn't been

1050
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:17,280
great so far yeah reasons but

1051
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:18,960
keep it weird part

1052
00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:20,880
i'll give them that and i believe they

1053
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:22,400
really strive for it and are proud of it

1054
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:23,359
out there

1055
00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:26,240
but yeah yeah i think in life um

1056
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:27,200
i don't know

1057
00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:29,760
weird is not always bad and i suppose

1058
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:31,920
right we could hit on that do you feel

1059
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:34,320
that you had a weird upbringing i mean

1060
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:37,040
any more so than anyone else

1061
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:39,520
well i mean the upbringing was normal

1062
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:42,000
but the experiences were definitely not

1063
00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:43,359
um

1064
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:44,240
you know

1065
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:45,599
in regards to

1066
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:48,079
my dad being in the military

1067
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:49,359
i remember

1068
00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:51,440
um because i loved to look up the stars

1069
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:53,839
i loved uh looking and studying the

1070
00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:56,320
constellations and everything so i would

1071
00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:57,760
look up there and

1072
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:59,200
you know you'd see different things

1073
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:01,280
moving across the sky you had your

1074
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:03,520
satellites and your your shooting stars

1075
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:04,880
and all this stuff

1076
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:07,440
well i remember one day i was talking to

1077
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:08,480
my dad

1078
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:09,839
and he

1079
00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:11,119
i don't remember how it got brought up

1080
00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:13,280
but he was talking about ufos

1081
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:15,680
and i was like well how can you tell how

1082
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:17,119
do you know if it's a ufo and he goes

1083
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:20,240
well it's very easy you you know here's

1084
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:22,240
a satellite this is what they do this is

1085
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:23,839
a shooting star this is what they do and

1086
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:26,079
this is what a ufo does i was like oh

1087
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:27,280
okay

1088
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:30,160
and then later on um

1089
00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:31,920
you know i would be looking in the sky

1090
00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:34,880
and i would see i've seen a lot of

1091
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:37,119
very strange um

1092
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:40,000
things in the sky that you know it made

1093
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:41,680
like a it went back and forth kind of

1094
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:43,599
like this

1095
00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:45,119
and then there was another one where it

1096
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:47,520
kind of went across and went down

1097
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:50,240
diagonally and then it just shot up

1098
00:39:55,030 --> 00:39:52,160
and uh i mean things were different

1099
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:55,040
colors it might be blinking red

1100
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:57,280
one might be blinking uh like a bluish

1101
00:40:02,310 --> 00:39:59,359
color and then another one was like

1102
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:02,320
multicolored and um

1103
00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:04,880
and it was just very much like

1104
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:07,599
normal kind of a deal and and my dad

1105
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:09,359
made it seem normal

1106
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:10,640
and so

1107
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:13,359
then one day i was like well

1108
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:16,400
is there good aliens and bad aliens then

1109
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:17,839
and he said well

1110
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:20,079
yeah i mean just like there's good and

1111
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:23,440
bad people and and that was the key

1112
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:24,560
the way

1113
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:29,119
somebody that

1114
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:30,160
he didn't

1115
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:32,960
joke around and and be funny and and all

1116
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:35,040
of that kind of thing this was

1117
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:42,550
you know real just a matter of fact when

1118
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:44,160
you put it out there

1119
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:47,520
exactly so it was just like oh okay

1120
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:49,520
um

1121
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:52,880
and then and then what was really weird

1122
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:55,359
was that

1123
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:58,000
eventually so i would i would be trying

1124
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:00,480
to learn about aliens and ufos and stuff

1125
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:03,119
like that and we had a landline now

1126
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:04,720
maybe this was just

1127
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:07,520
coincidence maybe you know and maybe we

1128
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:10,800
just have had a faulty phone line um

1129
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:12,880
but if i would bring it up with my

1130
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:13,920
friends

1131
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:15,920
it almost seemed like somebody was on

1132
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:17,440
the line

1133
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:19,440
and then

1134
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,599
if it continued

1135
00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:23,280
we couldn't use our phones

1136
00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:24,720
the entire

1137
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:27,040
phone line in the house would go down so

1138
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:28,880
you'd pick up the receiver and there was

1139
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:31,119
no dial tone there's nothing absolutely

1140
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:32,160
nothing

1141
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:34,640
and it only happened if we were

1142
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:36,079
discussing

1143
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:39,599
that topic and that was it

1144
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:40,720
ah

1145
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:42,880
i'm telling you so it's so funny was

1146
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:45,280
your dad was he in the military for life

1147
00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:46,319
like the

1148
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,000
full service no no he wasn't

1149
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:52,400
oh okay well i just i always interesting

1150
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:53,440
though the

1151
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:55,359
the the topic of how many of those guys

1152
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:56,400
i mean back in that i mean i don't think

1153
00:41:59,589 --> 00:41:58,079
it's not really even

1154
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:59,599
it's not even conspiratorial anymore we

1155
00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:01,040
definitely 100 know they were listening

1156
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:02,560
to people but it's always interesting

1157
00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:05,040
like who and what right was it was it

1158
00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:06,319
some sort of

1159
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:09,119
entity or was it just simply people

1160
00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:10,400
tapping into here and make sure that

1161
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:11,520
people aren't sharing secrets that they

1162
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:12,960
shouldn't be sharing if they have

1163
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:15,680
knowledge about our military

1164
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:16,800
right um

1165
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:18,000
really quick though before we move on to

1166
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:19,760
your childhood if you wouldn't mind i

1167
00:42:23,109 --> 00:42:21,760
actually came across a story i heard you

1168
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:23,119
sharing one time

1169
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:25,119
and it goes and i believe it was your

1170
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:26,560
father if i have it wrong you know

1171
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:28,640
forgive me but it had to do with you

1172
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:31,200
guys being in the woods and him bringing

1173
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:33,359
up the little people do you remember

1174
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:34,960
this experience

1175
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:37,280
yes oh my gosh

1176
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:40,400
um so again i come from a long line of

1177
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:42,240
raw counters

1178
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:43,280
my

1179
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:44,720
great-grandfather

1180
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:48,240
um grandfather and father uh even my

1181
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:51,359
brother um they all ended up

1182
00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:53,280
uh they would go out and and look for

1183
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:54,800
rocks and stuff and then they would make

1184
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:57,119
them into you know belt buckles and

1185
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:59,040
necklaces and earrings and everything

1186
00:43:03,030 --> 00:42:59,839
well

1187
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:03,040
we would go out in the woods a lot and i

1188
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,720
remember being in the car and i hated it

1189
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:08,160
i hated it because i was afraid of

1190
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:09,280
bigfoot

1191
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:10,319
and

1192
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:11,680
you know because i always heard the

1193
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:13,359
stories and everything and that's what i

1194
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:14,960
was scared of and i was just sitting

1195
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:16,560
there going he could be watching me he

1196
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:18,000
could be in the woods

1197
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,920
and uh you know so at this point at this

1198
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:21,599
point i was like five

1199
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:23,280
and so

1200
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:24,640
we get out

1201
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:26,960
and we're walking in the woods

1202
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,960
and i see this clear as day like like

1203
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,800
this is off of old logging roads and

1204
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,160
stuff okay

1205
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:36,480
and there is this perfect

1206
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:38,720
little footprint in the dirt

1207
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:41,040
and it looks like a one-year-old was

1208
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:42,800
walking around out there with no shoes

1209
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:46,720
on perfect little you know and i said

1210
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:48,480
dad

1211
00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:50,000
what is that you know because i'm

1212
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:51,200
thinking

1213
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:54,000
bigfoot footprints are big like this

1214
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:56,720
isn't big what is this

1215
00:44:01,829 --> 00:43:59,599
and he um he was like well it's the

1216
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:01,839
little people just

1217
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:03,839
matter of factly again

1218
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:05,520
and and

1219
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:07,599
and that was the end of the conversation

1220
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:09,599
and i didn't realize that there was such

1221
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:11,040
a thing until getting into this

1222
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:12,960
community and then i'm like are you

1223
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:14,319
serious

1224
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:16,319
so

1225
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:18,720
do you think do you think okay there's a

1226
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:20,720
couple ways i want to go so first of all

1227
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:23,520
let's hit this do you think your father

1228
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:25,839
was an experiencer on some level did you

1229
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:27,520
did this conversation ever come up or do

1230
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:29,040
you if it didn't do you feel or

1231
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:30,720
intuitively that that

1232
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:32,640
he had some experiences at some point in

1233
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:33,920
his life

1234
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:35,520
you know what's really really weird

1235
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:37,520
about that i actually went to call him

1236
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:39,040
two days ago

1237
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:40,400
because

1238
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:43,680
i realized that instead

1239
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:45,280
so

1240
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:47,760
i was always razzing him about being in

1241
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:49,440
the air force because he didn't tell me

1242
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:50,400
what he did

1243
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:52,400
the only thing that he will talk about

1244
00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:54,960
is how he swam with the jellyfish

1245
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:56,079
in uh

1246
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:57,040
yeah

1247
00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:59,200
and that's it like

1248
00:45:04,050 --> 00:45:00,960
like that's it every man who's ever been

1249
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:07,270
[Laughter]

1250
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:08,510
jellyfish

1251
00:45:13,270 --> 00:45:11,920
[Laughter]

1252
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:13,280
exactly

1253
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:14,240
and so

1254
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:15,920
you know and i know that he liked he

1255
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:18,000
always liked x-files you know i was

1256
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:19,520
watching that with him

1257
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:22,400
so i just razzed him my whole life and i

1258
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:24,800
was like oh well you know i bet i was

1259
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:27,760
grown and and i'm half alien and you

1260
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:30,640
know gosh when i first got my my car

1261
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:32,400
i was like hey dad check this out i got

1262
00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:33,599
a new car

1263
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:35,839
i was like i got it from some guy in in

1264
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,400
uh area 51 he told me that if i see

1265
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:40,079
lights in the sky to just drive really

1266
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:42,560
fast but he gave me a great deal on it

1267
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:44,560
and so like

1268
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:46,400
you know because

1269
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:48,160
i'm gonna you know i'm gonna sit there

1270
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:49,839
and i'm gonna razz him because he won't

1271
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:51,520
give me information

1272
00:45:53,370 --> 00:45:52,720
so

1273
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:53,380
i never

1274
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:54,720
[Music]

1275
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,720
i never really sat there and thought

1276
00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:58,400
about asking him

1277
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:01,040
did you have a

1278
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:04,000
experience because later on okay so

1279
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:06,560
later on when we were in healing group

1280
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:09,040
i was also learning how to do like

1281
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:11,680
channeling and stuff which

1282
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:13,440
is kind of a new topic for me to talk

1283
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,480
about

1284
00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:16,800
but i was learning how to do that

1285
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:19,839
and at one point there

1286
00:46:25,349 --> 00:46:22,880
i don't know i i was in there

1287
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,359
and i had this vision of this certain

1288
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:27,440
kind of crystal pyramid

1289
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:29,359
and all of a sudden somebody walks in

1290
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:32,000
and they have one and so i'm like i

1291
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:34,000
think i'm supposed to hold this can i

1292
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:35,520
can i borrow it

1293
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,359
and he let me borrow it

1294
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:39,440
and so i was holding on to it and i

1295
00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:40,960
remember

1296
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:44,480
just having this this big impression and

1297
00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:47,200
seeing seeing things in my mind's eye

1298
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:49,040
and i was drawn to this woman that was

1299
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:50,880
sitting over on the couch

1300
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:52,160
so

1301
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:53,760
i walked up to her

1302
00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:55,520
and i was just like holding this thing

1303
00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:58,400
and feeling super anxious

1304
00:47:01,829 --> 00:47:00,240
and weird

1305
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,839
and i kind of held on to it and i looked

1306
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:03,839
at her and i'm like

1307
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:05,440
i think i'm supposed to tell you

1308
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:06,720
something

1309
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:09,280
and then

1310
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:11,760
i don't know anything that happened all

1311
00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:14,800
i know is it was like i woke back up

1312
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:16,240
and she's crying

1313
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:18,079
and she's telling me thank you

1314
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:20,160
i have no idea what i did i have no idea

1315
00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:21,440
what i said

1316
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:22,880
and

1317
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:25,920
later on what ended up happening is she

1318
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:28,319
took it as a message or something to go

1319
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:29,119
to

1320
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:30,800
the east city ranch

1321
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:33,440
which i i've never been to yet but she

1322
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:35,200
went with my dad and they went with

1323
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:37,119
somebody else from healing group

1324
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:39,680
i've tried to ask hey what did you

1325
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:41,680
experience when you were there well

1326
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:43,440
you'll just have to go and experience it

1327
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:45,599
for yourself

1328
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:47,760
seriously

1329
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:49,760
like all right

1330
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:53,599
all right jellyfish i mean exactly

1331
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:55,200
yeah i'm going to go on a limb here and

1332
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:57,680
say i i i mean i guess this is just

1333
00:48:01,510 --> 00:48:00,240
william's assumptions but man

1334
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:01,520
and does it sound like that's an

1335
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:02,800
experience who just

1336
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:04,000
came from a generation where you

1337
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:05,280
couldn't talk about it he was in a

1338
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,760
career past you know that again this is

1339
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:09,839
me making assumptions but

1340
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:11,119
this is very

1341
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:14,160
uh similar to what terry lovelace went

1342
00:48:18,549 --> 00:48:16,000
through with his father a little bit

1343
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:18,559
and he's always wondered he said i wish

1344
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:19,920
i could have sat down because he said

1345
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:22,559
his father loved talking about space and

1346
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:24,240
talking about the things up there now he

1347
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:25,440
would always say to the general public

1348
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:26,720
you know that's just the stuff from the

1349
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:28,559
other guys talking about russia but at

1350
00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:29,760
one time he did tell him he said you

1351
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:31,680
know that not everything's from them

1352
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:33,119
something someone from somewhere else

1353
00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:34,000
right

1354
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:35,920
and listening to this experience that

1355
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:38,000
and your dad was in the air force uh now

1356
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:39,359
a general timeline on this would have

1357
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:42,400
been i'm guessing give or take the 90s

1358
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:44,160
right that he was in maybe

1359
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:46,480
a vietnam war time

1360
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:48,880
he had me when he was 35.

1361
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:51,280
okay i gotcha

1362
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:53,920
yeah i mean

1363
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:56,640
and it's true i mean okay so

1364
00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:59,119
my family does kind of have those well

1365
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:01,119
you don't you don't talk about this you

1366
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:02,640
know because

1367
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:06,880
um

1368
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:09,839
my on my paternal side

1369
00:49:12,069 --> 00:49:10,880
we

1370
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:12,079
came from

1371
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:14,800
bess arabia and bess arabia it was this

1372
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:18,800
little town um alt arcis which is in uh

1373
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:22,480
it'd be where moldova is now and so

1374
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:25,200
we we haven't been here for very long on

1375
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:26,880
my paternal side

1376
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:30,160
and some of the stories from there and

1377
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:32,160
what they went through when they were in

1378
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:35,280
beth arabia and dealing with the army

1379
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:37,200
that you know they were very much like

1380
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:39,119
you know okay you have to come and be in

1381
00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:41,200
our army or we will you know kill you

1382
00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:42,880
and your family if you don't

1383
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:46,559
and those stories they were still still

1384
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:48,880
today they're very much like we don't

1385
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:51,599
talk about this

1386
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:54,400
it's like oh really okay

1387
00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:55,520
okay

1388
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:58,319
so yeah just a very private secret of

1389
00:50:01,910 --> 00:49:59,920
family

1390
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:01,920
yeah and i will give him credit on this

1391
00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:03,359
i will say this

1392
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:04,319
uh

1393
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:06,880
i think a person's word and it should

1394
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:08,880
still mean something to today and i try

1395
00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:10,319
to make sure that if i get my word on

1396
00:50:14,069 --> 00:50:12,240
something then i keep it because i

1397
00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:14,079
believe integrity is

1398
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:15,920
key with anything right but that

1399
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:18,000
generation did a great job on if they

1400
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:19,040
said something even if they didn't want

1401
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:20,400
to completely do it but they said they

1402
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:21,200
were going to do it they followed

1403
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:22,400
through with it even if that meant

1404
00:50:25,589 --> 00:50:24,800
taking a secret to the grave

1405
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:25,599
right

1406
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:26,640
and i don't know how to feel about it

1407
00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:29,040
because sometimes i really respect that

1408
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:30,559
and other times we wouldn't have the

1409
00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:32,880
stories we have if people hadn't been a

1410
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:34,800
whistleblower as it were or brought

1411
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:36,960
these these exactly

1412
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:39,760
underlying truths to to the light so

1413
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:42,000
i don't know i mean again maybe that's

1414
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:44,079
uh who knows he's still here with us

1415
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:45,760
correct your father right

1416
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:49,520
yes yes yeah yeah and i was we'll see

1417
00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:51,040
yes we will see

1418
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:52,480
for sure

1419
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:54,559
um so really quick i got before i fall

1420
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:56,160
behind because i promised guitar slinger

1421
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:57,599
here that i would ask uh he had a

1422
00:51:00,069 --> 00:50:58,800
question for you and i want to make sure

1423
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:00,079
i get it right i'm going to scroll back

1424
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:03,040
here i believe it was in relationship to

1425
00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:05,440
dreams but i want to verbatim get it

1426
00:51:09,349 --> 00:51:06,960
right i should have scrolled up before i

1427
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:09,359
started this here we go i said i have a

1428
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:11,760
question for lady anne have you had

1429
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:14,400
intense or lucid dreams uh correlate

1430
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:16,640
with orbs or sightings so i believe he's

1431
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:18,000
asking if you've had anything like that

1432
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:20,960
any kind of experience from the dream

1433
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:22,640
oh man okay

1434
00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:24,079
uh yeah

1435
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:25,920
um

1436
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:27,040
so

1437
00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:39,359
um we my my ex and i had gotten into an

1438
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:42,000
argument and he had left and he went and

1439
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:44,160
he went out driving and

1440
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:45,839
and went up to this park that was on

1441
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:47,680
this this big hill that you could see

1442
00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:50,319
like you know multiple towns from and he

1443
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:51,839
had driven it was in the middle of the

1444
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:53,359
night

1445
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:55,920
he came back he called me on his way

1446
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:57,599
back and he was really freaking out and

1447
00:52:02,549 --> 00:52:00,079
i was like what's going on

1448
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:02,559
and when he had gotten to the top

1449
00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:04,480
there was this bright light

1450
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:07,760
this big just bright light and uh there

1451
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:09,599
was no sound you know there was no

1452
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:11,760
helicopter it wasn't a plane it wasn't a

1453
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:12,559
uh

1454
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:14,800
street light or you know like if there's

1455
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:17,359
construction they've got the the towers

1456
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:19,359
the lights to be able to see if you're

1457
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:22,079
doing uh construction there was nothing

1458
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:23,760
like that nothing

1459
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:25,680
and he just didn't have a good feeling

1460
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:28,319
so he drives back home

1461
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:30,559
and

1462
00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:33,359
i don't know

1463
00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:37,119
next night

1464
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:40,640
but i ended up having this i dream or

1465
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:42,480
whatever

1466
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:45,040
where i was um

1467
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:51,430
bed table thing

1468
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:52,880
and

1469
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:54,319
there are these people that came in the

1470
00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:57,119
room they were beautiful they were

1471
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:59,359
people and that but they spoke

1472
00:53:03,190 --> 00:53:01,280
telepathically

1473
00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:03,200
and i remember

1474
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:05,119
um

1475
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:07,200
they injected me

1476
00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:09,680
on this arm my left arm

1477
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:10,800
with

1478
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:12,400
something

1479
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:13,599
and

1480
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:15,920
then they left the room

1481
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:18,559
and when they left the room i sat there

1482
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:19,760
and i was just

1483
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:23,520
i kind of was observing the other people

1484
00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:25,280
and i thought okay

1485
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:26,800
you know i gotta i gotta try to clear my

1486
00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:28,720
mind because they can they can speak

1487
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:30,720
telepathically so they'll they'll know

1488
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:32,319
my thoughts so i've got to try to just

1489
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:33,599
not think

1490
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:34,880
and i get up

1491
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:37,359
and i go towards this door the swinging

1492
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:38,720
door

1493
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:42,720
and there's this room and it's all white

1494
00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:45,040
and it's really this it's sterile

1495
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:47,119
and it's like

1496
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:48,720
it's like somebody just

1497
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:51,119
flipped the the light off

1498
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:53,200
and i just collapsed you know those i

1499
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:54,240
don't know if you've ever seen those

1500
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:56,559
really old antique toys where you you

1501
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:59,200
press the bottom and they have all these

1502
00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:01,040
joints and they can move in all these

1503
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:02,800
different ways

1504
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:04,640
and then they just collapse if you're

1505
00:54:07,589 --> 00:54:05,520
not

1506
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:07,599
but it was like that the lights just go

1507
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,720
off and i collapse and the next thing i

1508
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:12,400
know

1509
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:12,770
um

1510
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:14,720
[Music]

1511
00:54:19,109 --> 00:54:17,440
i'm i'm waking up in bed

1512
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:19,119
but i look at my arm and it's

1513
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:21,599
legitimately like i had you know like if

1514
00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:23,680
you were to get a flu shot or something

1515
00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:25,440
there there's a bump

1516
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:27,200
and it's sore

1517
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:30,640
now for the longest time i thought well

1518
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:33,200
you know you can have a dream

1519
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:35,920
that you trip over a fire ant mound and

1520
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:37,520
they're covering you and you will wake

1521
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:40,960
up in rashes you know like like the mind

1522
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,160
can really do amazing things but

1523
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:46,079
when it's

1524
00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:49,520
when it lasts for more than one day

1525
00:54:54,390 --> 00:54:51,599
i think that takes it away a little bit

1526
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:54,400
from being a um

1527
00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:57,839
just a dream um and then i had some more

1528
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:59,839
i i had because i was i was pregnant at

1529
00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:01,440
the time

1530
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:03,440
that that happened

1531
00:55:05,829 --> 00:55:04,319
um

1532
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:05,839
i don't know if i've ever told this full

1533
00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:07,359
story or not

1534
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:11,119
uh that's okay take your time no rush

1535
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:15,520
basically so i was i had to have been

1536
00:55:20,549 --> 00:55:18,240
four or five months pregnant at the time

1537
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:20,559
when that happened

1538
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:25,430
i ended up having

1539
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:29,440
preterm labor like symptoms

1540
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:32,160
and i went into the hospital and

1541
00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:34,400
it was really strange because

1542
00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:36,559
there was a man that was there that

1543
00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:38,240
didn't

1544
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:43,040
when you're going to that particular ob

1545
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:44,880
you're seeing all the different people

1546
00:55:47,589 --> 00:55:46,240
just because they don't know who's going

1547
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:47,599
to be on shift that night when you

1548
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:49,440
actually do give birth

1549
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:52,319
so there's this man and

1550
00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:55,599
that he he's wanting to take my blood

1551
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:56,720
and he

1552
00:56:02,309 --> 00:55:59,680
he leaves his cart in the hallway

1553
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:02,319
and he comes in and he does the thing

1554
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:05,040
but he tells my ex he's like oh i don't

1555
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:08,160
have the right tube or whatever so then

1556
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:10,400
he sends him out in the hallway to get

1557
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:12,880
the right tube i mean this is this is so

1558
00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:13,920
against

1559
00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:16,480
protocol and law and

1560
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:18,799
yeah so he's standing there

1561
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:20,720
yeah yeah

1562
00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:23,680
and so finally and he's acting kind of

1563
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:28,309
i don't know um

1564
00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:31,680
like anxiety or whatever just just off

1565
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:33,040
just weird

1566
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:35,760
so they they get my um

1567
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:38,960
they they take my blood and he leaves

1568
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:40,720
the next thing i know

1569
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:43,040
is there's somebody else in there and

1570
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:45,680
they inject um

1571
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:49,119
they inject the stuff into the iv

1572
00:56:53,349 --> 00:56:50,640
and they're saying that it's supposed to

1573
00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:53,359
slow down the contractions and

1574
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:55,599
it was um

1575
00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:59,280
it's called uh it was like temazepam

1576
00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:01,680
which is never supposed to be given in

1577
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:03,520
liquid form and it's never supposed to

1578
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:05,119
be used in pregnancy as far as my

1579
00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:07,440
research has has told me

1580
00:57:12,549 --> 00:57:10,000
yeah and the reaction that i had was

1581
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:12,559
awful i mean it was

1582
00:57:17,109 --> 00:57:14,079
nothing in my life that i've ever

1583
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:17,119
experienced before and it was

1584
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:18,640
i don't know it was just really weird

1585
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:19,760
well then

1586
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:22,559
everything seems to go back to normal

1587
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:24,000
and

1588
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:27,040
when i ended up giving birth to her

1589
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:28,319
um

1590
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:31,280
it was that night so i i gave birth to

1591
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:34,559
her it was like ten ten o'clock at night

1592
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:36,880
somewhere around two

1593
00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:39,280
or three in the morning

1594
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:40,799
and waking up

1595
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,040
and this nurses come in and she's

1596
00:57:48,069 --> 00:57:45,839
cutting off all of my armbands

1597
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:48,079
every single one of them and i'm like

1598
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:51,200
you know what what are you doing and

1599
00:57:55,829 --> 00:57:52,319
and i

1600
00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:55,839
if memory serves me correctly

1601
00:57:59,670 --> 00:57:57,680
i want to say that before she cut off my

1602
00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:59,680
armband she put something in the iv

1603
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:01,440
again

1604
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:03,280
but she cuts off all the armbands she

1605
00:58:07,030 --> 00:58:05,440
tells me that it's fine

1606
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:07,040
and then she wheels

1607
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:09,760
uh my daughter away

1608
00:58:15,030 --> 00:58:13,119
and i'm back out i'm completely out

1609
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:15,040
well

1610
00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:17,599
the next morning the nurses come in and

1611
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:19,280
they're freaking out

1612
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:21,520
where's your armbands you know and i'm

1613
00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:24,000
like well nurse so-and-so told you know

1614
00:58:28,630 --> 00:58:26,240
said it was fine and they're like no no

1615
00:58:30,390 --> 00:58:28,640
you never do that and they said what was

1616
00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:30,400
the name and i said the name and they

1617
00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:32,000
said that there wasn't anybody on that

1618
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:34,799
floor with that name that night

1619
00:58:39,990 --> 00:58:37,119
um but

1620
00:58:42,549 --> 00:58:40,000
i mean we've we've been fine ever since

1621
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:42,559
and my child's been fine and and

1622
00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:44,559
everything but i mean

1623
00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:50,470
i don't know if it's all connected

1624
00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:52,160
yeah and i apologize for cutting you off

1625
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:53,520
there i didn't mean to cut you out was

1626
00:58:56,789 --> 00:58:56,000
this your first child

1627
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:56,799
yes

1628
00:59:03,510 --> 00:59:00,720
have three and nothing like that has

1629
00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:03,520
ever happened again

1630
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:05,280
right yeah this is jim's bringing up a

1631
00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:07,440
great point here wait is this in an

1632
00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:09,200
actual hospital so to clarify that just

1633
00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:10,480
so that there's no confusion in the

1634
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:13,680
story this is not yeah no

1635
00:59:17,829 --> 00:59:15,520
no home birth no nothing this was a

1636
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:17,839
legitimate

1637
00:59:21,430 --> 00:59:19,280
wow

1638
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:21,440
if you don't mind my asking

1639
00:59:25,349 --> 00:59:24,240
when you when you came back uh

1640
00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:25,359
the nurses when they came in they

1641
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,480
noticed you were missing your bands

1642
00:59:30,309 --> 00:59:28,640
correct it sounds like yeah right and

1643
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:30,319
they were freaking out about it

1644
00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:31,119
right

1645
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:32,960
as as natalie was saying here

1646
00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:35,200
it's illegal you can't you're not i mean

1647
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:36,400
you're never supposed to have them cut i

1648
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:37,440
remember when i used to leave anything

1649
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:38,640
i've been in the hospital for a few

1650
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:40,480
minor things and they cut them off right

1651
00:59:43,109 --> 00:59:41,200
at the end right they get those

1652
00:59:44,390 --> 00:59:43,119
ridiculous scissors and they go to cut

1653
00:59:45,349 --> 00:59:44,400
it off but

1654
00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:45,359
uh

1655
00:59:48,390 --> 00:59:46,880
when this took place they put did they

1656
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:48,400
put new bands on you and was your

1657
00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:50,160
daughter there with you was she back in

1658
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:52,480
the room or did they have to go locate

1659
00:59:56,710 --> 00:59:54,160
her

1660
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:56,720
no no she was back in the room she was

1661
01:00:01,190 --> 00:59:59,280
totally back in the room and i do not

1662
01:00:02,150 --> 01:00:01,200
recall if they put

1663
01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:02,160
um

1664
01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:06,710
i don't know if they did because i don't

1665
01:00:12,069 --> 01:00:09,359
know i can't remember that part but you

1666
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:12,079
know natalie who you said uh

1667
01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:14,480
just said whatever it was um

1668
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:17,200
she was there i i had met her actually

1669
01:00:21,109 --> 01:00:18,720
when i first uh found out that i was

1670
01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:21,119
pregnant and she said you know

1671
01:00:25,109 --> 01:00:23,359
what was so weird about it is how

1672
01:00:29,349 --> 01:00:25,119
nonchalant you were

1673
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:29,359
you were just like yeah it happened and

1674
01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:32,000
and it was weird it was definitely weird

1675
01:00:37,349 --> 01:00:35,680
because i should have been a lot more

1676
01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:37,359
freaked out

1677
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:44,069
space cadeti over it it was it was just

1678
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:46,240
so weird and then

1679
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:47,680
um

1680
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:49,920
you know and that wouldn't be

1681
01:00:58,069 --> 01:00:52,799
that would not be the last time

1682
01:01:01,430 --> 01:01:00,150
alien-ish event

1683
01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:01,440
happen

1684
01:01:05,589 --> 01:01:03,040
um and that's why

1685
01:01:07,109 --> 01:01:05,599
i'm kind of like as i'm writing my book

1686
01:01:08,549 --> 01:01:07,119
i'm kind of looking at all these

1687
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:08,559
different events

1688
01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:10,799
and seeing if i can't put them together

1689
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:14,400
and see like a bigger picture or

1690
01:01:19,349 --> 01:01:16,720
figure out why why these different

1691
01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:19,359
things have happened um did i ever

1692
01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:22,000
send you the alien picture

1693
01:01:26,789 --> 01:01:24,720
no i don't think you did can you

1694
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:26,799
can you if i share it with you can you

1695
01:01:30,950 --> 01:01:28,400
put it on the screen

1696
01:01:32,309 --> 01:01:30,960
uh yeah send it to me uh if you can

1697
01:01:33,829 --> 01:01:32,319
because i don't have it on here can you

1698
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:33,839
send it to me on facebook messenger then

1699
01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:35,359
i can save it and then share it back in

1700
01:01:39,190 --> 01:01:36,160
here

1701
01:01:41,190 --> 01:01:39,200
just because i don't have instagram on

1702
01:01:42,789 --> 01:01:41,200
the on the desktop here

1703
01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:42,799
um i want to welcome everybody who's

1704
01:01:45,430 --> 01:01:43,920
coming to the chat room while she's

1705
01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:45,440
sending that over so uh that one time i

1706
01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:47,280
was abducted by aliens what's up ladies

1707
01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:49,119
what's she again uh thank you for coming

1708
01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:50,400
hanging out

1709
01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:54,319
uh yj overlord and canada welcome we

1710
01:01:58,150 --> 01:01:56,880
still also have guys spaced out radio

1711
01:01:59,910 --> 01:01:58,160
dave scott

1712
01:02:01,670 --> 01:01:59,920
he's in here unless it's lin lin could

1713
01:02:03,750 --> 01:02:01,680
be creeping under the name it's based on

1714
01:02:05,430 --> 01:02:03,760
radio i don't know for sure

1715
01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:05,440
and lynn will also be on tonight once i

1716
01:02:09,029 --> 01:02:06,960
see who she's got and i will let you

1717
01:02:12,150 --> 01:02:09,039
guys know but that will be

1718
01:02:13,430 --> 01:02:12,160
12 a.m eastern time it's throwing me off

1719
01:02:15,589 --> 01:02:13,440
not saying the eastern central standard

1720
01:02:17,029 --> 01:02:15,599
time if if uh

1721
01:02:19,029 --> 01:02:17,039
sunny's in here still he knows what i'm

1722
01:02:20,950 --> 01:02:19,039
talking about spooky morales also

1723
01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:20,960
welcome natalie gilbert thank you so

1724
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:22,640
much for hanging out with us tonight

1725
01:02:26,789 --> 01:02:24,640
as well as jose but yeah if you send it

1726
01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:26,799
over to me i will i did definitely share

1727
01:02:30,789 --> 01:02:28,400
that one set perfect so once i get that

1728
01:02:31,910 --> 01:02:30,799
i'll i'll bring that up but so

1729
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:31,920
just really quick then if you wouldn't

1730
01:02:34,390 --> 01:02:33,119
mind there's one thing i want to hit on

1731
01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:34,400
with this story which first of all thank

1732
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:36,799
you very much for sharing um you know i

1733
01:02:39,589 --> 01:02:37,920
never want anybody feel pressured to

1734
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:39,599
have to share anything but i will say

1735
01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:41,280
that we have a great little community

1736
01:02:44,549 --> 01:02:43,440
right here in this this chat i consider

1737
01:02:47,109 --> 01:02:44,559
a lot of people like family it's so

1738
01:02:48,950 --> 01:02:47,119
funny i've never met really any of them

1739
01:02:50,069 --> 01:02:48,960
um but i have plans to i certainly have

1740
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:50,079
plans to

1741
01:02:53,510 --> 01:02:52,480
uh going back to this instance and i

1742
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:53,520
just the only reason i want to be clear

1743
01:02:57,829 --> 01:02:55,280
on it is because it it just the story

1744
01:02:59,349 --> 01:02:57,839
started at like 10 and then we hit 150

1745
01:03:01,270 --> 01:02:59,359
in like two seconds right i just want to

1746
01:03:02,470 --> 01:03:01,280
make sure i'm getting it clear

1747
01:03:04,150 --> 01:03:02,480
these

1748
01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:04,160
you had when you were traveling you said

1749
01:03:07,270 --> 01:03:05,280
it was late at night you seen the lights

1750
01:03:09,750 --> 01:03:07,280
that were working i was a little foggy

1751
01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:09,760
on that part did you fall asleep or what

1752
01:03:14,950 --> 01:03:11,680
what happened to cause you to wake up in

1753
01:03:17,190 --> 01:03:14,960
that all-white stale room

1754
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:17,200
um so

1755
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:21,280
so the x is who saw the light

1756
01:03:25,670 --> 01:03:23,680
when he had left the house

1757
01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:25,680
and then he had come back home to tell

1758
01:03:30,309 --> 01:03:28,079
me what he had experienced

1759
01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:30,319
and then it was a night or two later

1760
01:03:35,109 --> 01:03:32,319
that i had this dream

1761
01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:35,119
and in the dream i was in one room and i

1762
01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:37,599
tried to escape but they

1763
01:03:42,390 --> 01:03:41,119
shut me down or something

1764
01:03:44,390 --> 01:03:42,400
okay

1765
01:03:46,390 --> 01:03:44,400
and and with with the

1766
01:03:47,750 --> 01:03:46,400
the mark that you had in your arm i mean

1767
01:03:50,150 --> 01:03:47,760
i know i know it always sucks because we

1768
01:03:51,750 --> 01:03:50,160
never document this stuff okay i will

1769
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:51,760
come on there's times we've all woke up

1770
01:03:55,349 --> 01:03:53,760
anybody who's in this in this

1771
01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:55,359
community has woken up sometimes with a

1772
01:03:59,109 --> 01:03:57,200
mark on them they're like

1773
01:04:01,109 --> 01:03:59,119
maybe maybe not but none of us ever take

1774
01:04:02,710 --> 01:04:01,119
pictures of it right no i mean maybe

1775
01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:02,720
some of you guys are out there doing it

1776
01:04:05,190 --> 01:04:04,000
i've had a couple times where i thought

1777
01:04:06,710 --> 01:04:05,200
about it i took a picture of something

1778
01:04:07,750 --> 01:04:06,720
like this is stupid and i deleted it

1779
01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:07,760
later but

1780
01:04:11,910 --> 01:04:10,400
uh did you show it to anybody did you

1781
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:11,920
point it out and be like hey does this

1782
01:04:14,789 --> 01:04:12,720
seem

1783
01:04:16,069 --> 01:04:14,799
interesting strange weird any of the

1784
01:04:18,950 --> 01:04:16,079
above

1785
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:18,960
well yeah yeah i i had shown it to my ex

1786
01:04:24,549 --> 01:04:21,839
and he just kind of i mean

1787
01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:27,270
care or think much of it

1788
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:29,200
so i just kind of was like well maybe

1789
01:04:32,150 --> 01:04:30,960
i'm just being weird because i mean

1790
01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:32,160
here's the thing

1791
01:04:38,150 --> 01:04:36,000
what if what if this was nothing but a

1792
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:38,160
wild imagination and i got bit by a

1793
01:04:41,829 --> 01:04:40,480
mosquito at that very point and then my

1794
01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:41,839
mind just

1795
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:44,160
did this fanciful thing and i mean

1796
01:04:48,069 --> 01:04:45,359
because that's always that's a

1797
01:04:50,470 --> 01:04:48,079
possibility i 100

1798
01:04:52,549 --> 01:04:50,480
i i'm totally you know cool with

1799
01:04:55,349 --> 01:04:52,559
debunking my experiences because then it

1800
01:04:56,870 --> 01:04:55,359
means it's not real and that's great but

1801
01:04:57,750 --> 01:04:56,880
i mean

1802
01:05:04,950 --> 01:04:57,760
i

1803
01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:04,960
then have

1804
01:05:08,630 --> 01:05:06,079
that

1805
01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:08,640
before i give birth and then when i give

1806
01:05:15,109 --> 01:05:12,559
birth and and it just it seems

1807
01:05:17,270 --> 01:05:15,119
yeah that's a lot um now really quick

1808
01:05:18,630 --> 01:05:17,280
guys i do have the pictures that she had

1809
01:05:20,390 --> 01:05:18,640
sent over uh that was probably what you

1810
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:20,400
guys saw my face somebody goes

1811
01:05:23,589 --> 01:05:22,319
um and now really quick though before i

1812
01:05:25,270 --> 01:05:23,599
share anything i just i guess if you

1813
01:05:27,109 --> 01:05:25,280
wouldn't mind transitioning us a little

1814
01:05:28,390 --> 01:05:27,119
bit to that what what am i about to show

1815
01:05:29,230 --> 01:05:28,400
people what where did this where did

1816
01:05:31,510 --> 01:05:29,240
this come from

1817
01:05:33,589 --> 01:05:31,520
[Laughter]

1818
01:05:38,470 --> 01:05:33,599
so okay

1819
01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:39,589
to

1820
01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:42,000
now i have three kids

1821
01:05:46,230 --> 01:05:44,319
and i was living in this apartment

1822
01:05:48,309 --> 01:05:46,240
complex

1823
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:48,319
and i was you know i was writing for the

1824
01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:50,640
newsletter that they were posting every

1825
01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:53,200
month at this place and i i knew the

1826
01:05:58,549 --> 01:05:56,400
managers and i loved my community

1827
01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:58,559
so i was standing out on my back patio

1828
01:06:03,190 --> 01:06:00,960
and i was looking at the sky and i was

1829
01:06:05,829 --> 01:06:03,200
admiring the stars and we were right on

1830
01:06:07,910 --> 01:06:05,839
the edge of all this farm field you know

1831
01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:07,920
and i thought oh man if we could

1832
01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:09,680
if we could participate in earth hour

1833
01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:11,200
this would be incredible and earth hours

1834
01:06:14,069 --> 01:06:12,720
when you have all your electricity off

1835
01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:14,079
for like an hour

1836
01:06:18,150 --> 01:06:15,680
um

1837
01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:18,160
so and i was like how could i could i

1838
01:06:22,789 --> 01:06:20,319
put this in the newsletter could i

1839
01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:22,799
inspire the community to do this because

1840
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:24,640
then imagine what the sky is going to

1841
01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:25,680
look like

1842
01:06:30,390 --> 01:06:28,480
so i'm this is where my head is at

1843
01:06:33,270 --> 01:06:30,400
well

1844
01:06:38,710 --> 01:06:33,280
so

1845
01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:38,720
i was you know there was the people that

1846
01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:40,880
i'm going to sound so lame

1847
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:43,280
uh the the people

1848
01:06:48,390 --> 01:06:45,760
the people that are doing the vaping and

1849
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:48,400
then they're like blowing these monster

1850
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:51,280
cloud things and so

1851
01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:53,119
i see this

1852
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:54,480
cloud

1853
01:06:58,470 --> 01:06:55,920
and i'm like

1854
01:07:02,549 --> 01:06:58,480
oh my gosh like holy like where's the

1855
01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:02,559
person doing this this is insane

1856
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:04,480
but there's no person there it's just

1857
01:07:10,710 --> 01:07:08,950
cloud of

1858
01:07:11,829 --> 01:07:10,720
fog stuff

1859
01:07:16,710 --> 01:07:11,839
and

1860
01:07:22,150 --> 01:07:19,190
takes takes shape

1861
01:07:23,589 --> 01:07:22,160
into this humanoid

1862
01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:23,599
figure

1863
01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:27,200
that it looks like an alien and

1864
01:07:30,309 --> 01:07:29,200
he's walking

1865
01:07:31,589 --> 01:07:30,319
i'm going to share the first part i

1866
01:07:33,589 --> 01:07:31,599
believe people still be able to hear us

1867
01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:33,599
i'm going to make sure i do the overlay

1868
01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:35,280
um yeah sure doesn't mute us okay so

1869
01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:36,559
here we go

1870
01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:37,440
uh

1871
01:07:40,789 --> 01:07:38,880
and guys i know it's kind of in the

1872
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:40,799
middle but this is the first image that

1873
01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:43,200
you sent um

1874
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:44,400
which doesn't look like much but this is

1875
01:07:47,349 --> 01:07:45,839
what you're initially seeing right i'll

1876
01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:47,359
let you set it up looking at this here

1877
01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:48,160
well

1878
01:07:52,630 --> 01:07:50,000
actually in the it's it's perfect

1879
01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:52,640
because um you can see in the photo

1880
01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:54,400
there's a white fence

1881
01:07:58,789 --> 01:07:56,480
at the end of the white fence that's

1882
01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:58,799
where the cloud was and this is where he

1883
01:08:01,829 --> 01:08:00,000
like

1884
01:08:02,470 --> 01:08:01,839
manifests or whatever you want to call

1885
01:08:06,309 --> 01:08:02,480
it

1886
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:06,319
he starts walking down the road um

1887
01:08:11,109 --> 01:08:08,720
you know out of out of picture he's

1888
01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:11,119
walking along on the other side of that

1889
01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:14,319
white fence towards the road so i can't

1890
01:08:19,349 --> 01:08:16,880
see his legs um but i can see his upper

1891
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:19,359
torso and his and his arms and his head

1892
01:08:23,590 --> 01:08:21,600
and he's walking

1893
01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:23,600
and then it's like he just disappears

1894
01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:25,279
like he walked through this invisible

1895
01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:26,400
door

1896
01:08:31,030 --> 01:08:27,440
so

1897
01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:31,040
i'm standing on the patio and i am just

1898
01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:33,839
frozen because at this point

1899
01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:36,000
at this point i've been doing the

1900
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:38,960
caravan my podcast i've been talking to

1901
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:42,960
people i've been learning um

1902
01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:44,880
i've been learning uh

1903
01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:46,480
all about these different things and i'm

1904
01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:48,319
thinking

1905
01:08:57,269 --> 01:08:49,600
if i

1906
01:09:00,149 --> 01:08:57,279
it's going to know that i'm watching it

1907
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:00,159
and there's going to be that like

1908
01:09:07,110 --> 01:09:04,239
telepathic connection and oh my gosh

1909
01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:07,120
so i no fight or flight just freeze and

1910
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:08,560
so

1911
01:09:12,149 --> 01:09:10,799
i'm standing there and finally like it's

1912
01:09:14,789 --> 01:09:12,159
gone for a little bit

1913
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:14,799
and i'm like okay

1914
01:09:18,870 --> 01:09:16,480
i need to turn around and i need to go

1915
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:18,880
inside

1916
01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:21,199
but my fear was if i turned around he

1917
01:09:28,149 --> 01:09:23,920
was going to be on my patio with me

1918
01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:28,159
and so i end up i i go inside

1919
01:09:32,950 --> 01:09:31,199
i shut the patio doors fast as i can i

1920
01:09:35,510 --> 01:09:32,960
draw the blinds i draw the curtains i've

1921
01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:35,520
called my sister and i'm freaking out

1922
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:37,040
and

1923
01:09:40,149 --> 01:09:38,080
i'm

1924
01:09:42,229 --> 01:09:40,159
scatterbrained and then i end up going

1925
01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:42,239
into my children's room

1926
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:43,520
because

1927
01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:45,600
their window was still open their blinds

1928
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:48,159
were open their window was open and i'm

1929
01:09:53,110 --> 01:09:50,719
like oh i gotta go in there and i'm on

1930
01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:53,120
the phone and i go up to the window and

1931
01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:56,080
i go to pull that the um pulley to let

1932
01:10:01,030 --> 01:09:58,719
down the blind

1933
01:10:03,350 --> 01:10:01,040
and i just have this feeling to look

1934
01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:03,360
across the green space

1935
01:10:08,630 --> 01:10:06,080
to that apartment window

1936
01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:08,640
and that's what i see standing there and

1937
01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:10,159
i'm going

1938
01:10:15,510 --> 01:10:12,800
this is my imagination this isn't this

1939
01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:15,520
is not real i'm seeing things so i just

1940
01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:17,280
tried to breathe through it i'm on the

1941
01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:19,520
phone with my sister my sister's got me

1942
01:10:23,189 --> 01:10:21,280
and i'm gonna open up my camera and i'm

1943
01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:23,199
gonna take a picture and then we're

1944
01:10:28,550 --> 01:10:25,120
gonna get it debunked we're gonna have

1945
01:10:32,070 --> 01:10:28,560
somebody tell me that this is a car

1946
01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:32,080
and a light facing the parking lot

1947
01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:33,760
that's what this is

1948
01:10:37,189 --> 01:10:34,960
and so

1949
01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:37,199
take the picture boom shut the blinds

1950
01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:38,640
shut the curtains

1951
01:10:42,950 --> 01:10:40,000
which is this right

1952
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:42,960
this is yes this was all yeah that's it

1953
01:10:45,990 --> 01:10:44,800
that's all that's it

1954
01:10:47,669 --> 01:10:46,000
so that's what you're interested in

1955
01:10:49,990 --> 01:10:47,679
because i did share this part which is i

1956
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:50,000
mean there's more but this is

1957
01:10:53,990 --> 01:10:51,440
what you're starting to see once you get

1958
01:10:56,229 --> 01:10:54,000
off the phone essentially

1959
01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:56,239
no no that's that's just that that's

1960
01:11:01,830 --> 01:10:59,199
that picture blown up blown out so

1961
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:01,840
yeah so i just took one photo

1962
01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:04,560
shut the blinds and i sent that one

1963
01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:06,400
photo to my sister

1964
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:09,360
and i said take it i don't want it i

1965
01:11:13,830 --> 01:11:11,040
don't want it on my phone i don't want

1966
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:13,840
to have the energetic tie to it just if

1967
01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:16,080
i decide that i can talk about this

1968
01:11:19,350 --> 01:11:17,679
which it ended up being like a year

1969
01:11:21,430 --> 01:11:19,360
later so

1970
01:11:23,350 --> 01:11:21,440
i was like if i can talk about this then

1971
01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:23,360
i'll ask you for that photograph back

1972
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:26,320
but i don't want it so i gave it to her

1973
01:11:28,220 --> 01:11:27,840
and i deleted it

1974
01:11:31,110 --> 01:11:28,230
um

1975
01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:31,120
[Music]

1976
01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:35,280
precursor to the story though

1977
01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:38,159
that i've wondered if it wasn't my fault

1978
01:11:47,669 --> 01:11:42,790
so

1979
01:11:49,189 --> 01:11:47,679
do is try to do remote viewing

1980
01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:49,199
okay

1981
01:11:51,430 --> 01:11:50,080
and

1982
01:11:54,709 --> 01:11:51,440
so

1983
01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:54,719
i thought it would be a good idea to try

1984
01:12:00,149 --> 01:11:59,199
and remote view into the montauk base

1985
01:12:01,350 --> 01:12:00,159
and

1986
01:12:02,630 --> 01:12:01,360
um

1987
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:02,640
yeah

1988
01:12:07,510 --> 01:12:06,000
general across the street right you

1989
01:12:09,830 --> 01:12:07,520
couldn't have you could have been like

1990
01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:09,840
it's right over there no i'm going for

1991
01:12:13,990 --> 01:12:12,239
montauk right off the bat

1992
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:14,000
i mean well the thing was

1993
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:15,840
i mean

1994
01:12:21,510 --> 01:12:18,880
i was successful like beforehand with my

1995
01:12:23,110 --> 01:12:21,520
friends like they'd drive somewhere and

1996
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:23,120
then i would describe what was around

1997
01:12:28,550 --> 01:12:26,800
them or you know my sister and and and

1998
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:28,560
it seemed to be

1999
01:12:32,470 --> 01:12:30,800
successful so i thought well i'll try

2000
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:32,480
something

2001
01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:38,320
harder i guess and so i did that

2002
01:12:43,669 --> 01:12:41,280
and it was it was interesting um i did

2003
01:12:45,189 --> 01:12:43,679
get to a point where

2004
01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:45,199
you know my sister always likes to play

2005
01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:47,040
the devil's advocate for me she is my

2006
01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:49,600
rock she grounds me you know

2007
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:50,960
and um

2008
01:12:59,669 --> 01:12:57,910
like spiritually inclined or connected

2009
01:13:02,790 --> 01:12:59,679
as i am

2010
01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:02,800
well when i was going through this

2011
01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:04,480
i got to this point where there was

2012
01:13:08,950 --> 01:13:06,000
something that

2013
01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:08,960
it was like rushing at me

2014
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:10,880
but in the same moment i hadn't said

2015
01:13:14,950 --> 01:13:12,239
anything yet because

2016
01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:14,960
i can see it in my mind's eye like it's

2017
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:17,520
it's aware of me and then she

2018
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:19,920
on the phone is just like stop

2019
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:23,120
and i and i opened my eyes and and uh

2020
01:13:27,430 --> 01:13:25,520
she was like i don't know why i had that

2021
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:27,440
feeling but it just really washed over

2022
01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:29,199
her and she was very protective and she

2023
01:13:33,910 --> 01:13:30,640
was very scared and

2024
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:33,920
i s and then i explained what i saw well

2025
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:36,320
it wasn't long after this that i saw

2026
01:13:40,149 --> 01:13:38,080
that

2027
01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:40,159
and then um

2028
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:42,719
not long after i saw that

2029
01:13:45,830 --> 01:13:44,560
do you mind too before we move on i

2030
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:45,840
apologize guys they only shared the

2031
01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:46,960
first two because they were letting me

2032
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:47,920
know they're like listen there's one

2033
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:50,239
more i was like i swear guys there is so

2034
01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:51,520
just this show people this is the

2035
01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:53,360
initial picture she took this is what

2036
01:13:55,910 --> 01:13:54,640
you see you're like you're on your phone

2037
01:13:57,669 --> 01:13:55,920
with your sister if i'm understanding

2038
01:13:59,189 --> 01:13:57,679
correctly you say you know what i'm just

2039
01:14:00,630 --> 01:13:59,199
gonna take this picture so we can look

2040
01:14:03,189 --> 01:14:00,640
back at this later like haha i'm just

2041
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:03,199
crazy it was a light yeah it was a kid

2042
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:06,400
it was a balloon right anything right

2043
01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:08,400
and then your sister

2044
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:10,320
sent this back the next image i'm

2045
01:14:12,950 --> 01:14:11,360
assuming

2046
01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:12,960
zoomed in a little more

2047
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:15,280
she zoomed in on it yeah okay and then

2048
01:14:21,590 --> 01:14:19,679
this is the final image guys zoomed in

2049
01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:21,600
which

2050
01:14:29,030 --> 01:14:27,030
i i recognize and i forget what it's

2051
01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:29,040
called i know that the human mind tries

2052
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:31,199
to create paranoia

2053
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:32,880
oh look at you pulling all the fancy

2054
01:14:36,470 --> 01:14:34,640
words i'm lucky to be able to say my

2055
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:36,480
name and get the show going

2056
01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:37,280
uh

2057
01:14:40,390 --> 01:14:39,440
what is it again paranoia

2058
01:14:42,229 --> 01:14:40,400
yes

2059
01:14:44,630 --> 01:14:42,239
paranoia okay so i understand that that

2060
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:44,640
is a thing but

2061
01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:47,920
my my i don't know that looks pretty

2062
01:14:51,669 --> 01:14:50,159
pretty interesting to say the least and

2063
01:14:54,470 --> 01:14:51,679
and going from this origin i mean this

2064
01:14:55,910 --> 01:14:54,480
is what we had originally was this

2065
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:55,920
but now i just want to be clear i know

2066
01:15:00,630 --> 01:14:57,600
you guys probably can't see my

2067
01:15:01,830 --> 01:15:00,640
my uh my mouse marker here cursor but

2068
01:15:03,430 --> 01:15:01,840
there's a fence down there i see what

2069
01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:03,440
you're talking about on the other side

2070
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:04,640
of the road

2071
01:15:07,750 --> 01:15:06,480
that is what initially caught your eye

2072
01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:07,760
correct

2073
01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:09,199
yeah yeah it was down there and i

2074
01:15:13,350 --> 01:15:11,360
actually saw it walking and i have had

2075
01:15:15,430 --> 01:15:13,360
people that have interviewed me about

2076
01:15:16,390 --> 01:15:15,440
this that i've sent the picture to and

2077
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:16,400
they

2078
01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:19,120
it's been a little rough because though

2079
01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:20,719
they'll say well you know that picture

2080
01:15:24,310 --> 01:15:22,960
that you sent me i had it analyzed i

2081
01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:24,320
know that it didn't tell you that i was

2082
01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:26,560
going to do that but but i had i had it

2083
01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:28,480
analyzed

2084
01:15:37,110 --> 01:15:35,110
debunk it yet amazing

2085
01:15:38,870 --> 01:15:37,120
yeah so wow

2086
01:15:41,350 --> 01:15:38,880
i mean that's all you can say i mean i

2087
01:15:42,790 --> 01:15:41,360
to me you know the funny thing is uh

2088
01:15:43,990 --> 01:15:42,800
first of all i wanna i wanna say thank

2089
01:15:46,229 --> 01:15:44,000
you for being brave enough to share the

2090
01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:46,239
photo because here's the thing i wanna

2091
01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:48,640
be really honest guys i'm into this

2092
01:15:53,430 --> 01:15:51,280
stuff i'm into this community and i

2093
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:53,440
still

2094
01:15:56,229 --> 01:15:54,880
in the back of my head if i got a

2095
01:15:57,510 --> 01:15:56,239
picture there's only like three people

2096
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:57,520
i'm gonna share it with you know what i

2097
01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:59,520
mean and they're very interesting

2098
01:16:02,870 --> 01:16:00,719
because i'd be

2099
01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:02,880
you don't want to damage the community

2100
01:16:08,229 --> 01:16:06,080
but then also too you questioning this

2101
01:16:10,390 --> 01:16:08,239
so much yourself i think gives a little

2102
01:16:12,870 --> 01:16:10,400
more validity to at least what you

2103
01:16:14,870 --> 01:16:12,880
experienced you experienced

2104
01:16:17,030 --> 01:16:14,880
now for those that might say well it was

2105
01:16:18,790 --> 01:16:17,040
this or that we don't know to be fair we

2106
01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:18,800
don't you were the one there

2107
01:16:22,390 --> 01:16:20,719
you had this experience or very at least

2108
01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:22,400
you whatever you experienced was real to

2109
01:16:27,189 --> 01:16:25,760
you and this is was the result of the

2110
01:16:28,470 --> 01:16:27,199
picture if we're trusting you to be

2111
01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:28,480
honest

2112
01:16:31,110 --> 01:16:30,080
with us which is all we can ask anybody

2113
01:16:34,070 --> 01:16:31,120
to do

2114
01:16:35,350 --> 01:16:34,080
that's pretty phenomenal i mean that's

2115
01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:35,360
now this is something that it sounds

2116
01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:36,080
like some of the people are saying

2117
01:16:39,590 --> 01:16:37,760
you've shared this on sor before right

2118
01:16:42,790 --> 01:16:39,600
with dave scott

2119
01:16:44,470 --> 01:16:42,800
yes yes i did share that with him nice

2120
01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:44,480
yeah because that's yeah wow i mean what

2121
01:16:47,510 --> 01:16:46,080
were his th i just had a curiosity what

2122
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:47,520
what were his thoughts on this or what

2123
01:16:52,709 --> 01:16:49,760
did he did he say much or would he like

2124
01:16:54,630 --> 01:16:52,719
no i've seen i've seen better

2125
01:16:57,189 --> 01:16:54,640
no no i mean

2126
01:16:59,430 --> 01:16:57,199
everybo everybody uh that has seen it

2127
01:17:02,550 --> 01:16:59,440
has has had you know the same reaction

2128
01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:02,560
that that you have had i mean

2129
01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:04,560
it's so

2130
01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:06,000
it's just one of those things where it's

2131
01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:09,199
so hard to tell you know

2132
01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:10,239
so

2133
01:17:14,310 --> 01:17:12,080
i i mean i i will say that i mean i get

2134
01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:14,320
that you know

2135
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:16,320
i see a head man i think i see an eye i

2136
01:17:21,590 --> 01:17:18,320
get that i'm seeing all that but then

2137
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:21,600
like you're saying it's hard to know but

2138
01:17:25,110 --> 01:17:23,520
irregard regardless i always say

2139
01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:25,120
regardless my brother gets on me about

2140
01:17:28,470 --> 01:17:27,120
it regardless of that

2141
01:17:30,470 --> 01:17:28,480
you did

2142
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:30,480
sense something prior right and this is

2143
01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:32,640
why you decided to i don't know go

2144
01:17:37,990 --> 01:17:35,040
remote view montag uh

2145
01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:38,000
so do you think that this was something

2146
01:17:43,270 --> 01:17:40,320
in its own way manifesting back how it

2147
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:43,280
was remote viewing you

2148
01:17:47,910 --> 01:17:45,840
i i don't know i don't know it was just

2149
01:17:50,390 --> 01:17:47,920
it was just the chain of events it was

2150
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:50,400
the timing that is making me go well

2151
01:17:55,669 --> 01:17:52,960
could this be related because

2152
01:17:57,750 --> 01:17:55,679
then after this there's one other one

2153
01:17:58,950 --> 01:17:57,760
other piece to this

2154
01:18:01,110 --> 01:17:58,960
thing

2155
01:18:03,990 --> 01:18:01,120
is that um

2156
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:04,000
you know we we didn't have any painting

2157
01:18:08,630 --> 01:18:05,920
or remodeling or anything that needed to

2158
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:08,640
be done to our apartment or the unit or

2159
01:18:13,910 --> 01:18:09,760
anything

2160
01:18:16,390 --> 01:18:13,920
and i was in my kitchen and i felt this

2161
01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:18,470
this strong urge to look out my kitchen

2162
01:18:23,510 --> 01:18:21,440
window and i had my my blind shut

2163
01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:23,520
so i looked out and i saw this van this

2164
01:18:27,030 --> 01:18:24,880
white van

2165
01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:27,040
pull up and and they park and and i'm

2166
01:18:31,110 --> 01:18:28,880
just watching them

2167
01:18:33,510 --> 01:18:31,120
and it's two men they get out and they

2168
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:33,520
look like painters

2169
01:18:37,270 --> 01:18:35,760
and they

2170
01:18:39,590 --> 01:18:37,280
you know they're they're dressed in in

2171
01:18:41,350 --> 01:18:39,600
the painters stuff and they come they

2172
01:18:43,110 --> 01:18:41,360
they open up the

2173
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:43,120
extra door and

2174
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:45,280
they pull out this bucket and and

2175
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:47,440
everything and

2176
01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:49,120
i just had this

2177
01:18:53,430 --> 01:18:52,400
i don't know this awful feeling about it

2178
01:18:57,430 --> 01:18:53,440
and

2179
01:19:00,229 --> 01:18:57,440
paranoid

2180
01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:00,239
but i felt like they were there for me

2181
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:03,600
and i and i can't explain that

2182
01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:06,719
and then legitimately they looked around

2183
01:19:10,070 --> 01:19:09,199
and then they headed straight for my my

2184
01:19:12,870 --> 01:19:10,080
door

2185
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:12,880
they go directly to

2186
01:19:15,830 --> 01:19:14,000
my unit

2187
01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:15,840
up the stairs directly to my door and

2188
01:19:19,510 --> 01:19:17,760
they knock on my door

2189
01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:19,520
and i just stayed quiet

2190
01:19:23,510 --> 01:19:22,000
i stayed quiet and i did not answer the

2191
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:23,520
door at all

2192
01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:25,440
and at this point uh

2193
01:19:29,669 --> 01:19:27,840
vance nesbitt used to be my co-host on

2194
01:19:32,149 --> 01:19:29,679
the caravan when we first started and he

2195
01:19:33,510 --> 01:19:32,159
was on the phone with me

2196
01:19:35,350 --> 01:19:33,520
i heard

2197
01:19:36,390 --> 01:19:35,360
what sounded like they were running the

2198
01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:36,400
paintbrush

2199
01:19:40,630 --> 01:19:38,560
along my door

2200
01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:40,640
and

2201
01:19:43,750 --> 01:19:42,400
i just waited

2202
01:19:45,910 --> 01:19:43,760
and then i heard them walk down the

2203
01:19:48,790 --> 01:19:45,920
stairs they look around they get back in

2204
01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:48,800
the van and they leave

2205
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:50,640
and i'm just sitting there like

2206
01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:53,600
out of all the units out of everything

2207
01:20:00,149 --> 01:19:55,520
you just randomly

2208
01:20:02,229 --> 01:20:00,159
like you know so so i i open my door

2209
01:20:04,070 --> 01:20:02,239
there's nothing there there's nothing

2210
01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:04,080
wet there is no paint there is

2211
01:20:08,229 --> 01:20:06,560
absolutely nothing on my door

2212
01:20:10,470 --> 01:20:08,239
or around it

2213
01:20:11,990 --> 01:20:10,480
so it makes no sense on what they did to

2214
01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:12,000
my door

2215
01:20:16,709 --> 01:20:14,080
you know and then at the time vance was

2216
01:20:18,629 --> 01:20:16,719
like well run a magnet across it

2217
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:18,639
you know uh i guess he was thinking

2218
01:20:22,070 --> 01:20:20,880
about like what is it nanotechnology or

2219
01:20:24,149 --> 01:20:22,080
something

2220
01:20:27,110 --> 01:20:24,159
and so yeah you know

2221
01:20:29,910 --> 01:20:27,120
and uh and and that was that was the end

2222
01:20:31,990 --> 01:20:29,920
of that but it was all within a certain

2223
01:20:34,310 --> 01:20:32,000
time frame

2224
01:20:36,149 --> 01:20:34,320
you know and so that's again what kind

2225
01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:36,159
of makes me lump them all together i

2226
01:20:39,669 --> 01:20:38,080
mean they could be totally separate

2227
01:20:41,110 --> 01:20:39,679
things maybe they were just two really

2228
01:20:42,870 --> 01:20:41,120
weird guys

2229
01:20:44,470 --> 01:20:42,880
i mean you know

2230
01:20:47,110 --> 01:20:44,480
who knows

2231
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:47,120
um it's just weird though

2232
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:48,880
right well i tell you what guys really

2233
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:50,320
quick we're going to take a quick um

2234
01:20:53,669 --> 01:20:52,080
because i i want to keep going with this

2235
01:20:55,110 --> 01:20:53,679
i definitely do uh really quickly i want

2236
01:20:57,030 --> 01:20:55,120
to say uh sun savers got to get out of

2237
01:20:58,149 --> 01:20:57,040
here they had a long day we appreciate

2238
01:20:59,669 --> 01:20:58,159
you being in the chat so much and hang

2239
01:21:01,189 --> 01:20:59,679
out with us everybody we're gonna take

2240
01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:01,199
about maybe a five minute break that way

2241
01:21:05,510 --> 01:21:03,199
if anybody needs the bathroom uh we'll

2242
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:05,520
be back in just a second here uh and and

2243
01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:07,199
we'll keep going i'm gonna throw up i'm

2244
01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:08,400
probably gonna throw a piece of music or

2245
01:21:10,629 --> 01:21:09,520
something it'll probably cut off early

2246
01:21:12,390 --> 01:21:10,639
but at least they'll be in the

2247
01:21:13,669 --> 01:21:12,400
background so i'm gonna pull you

2248
01:21:14,709 --> 01:21:13,679
backstage for just a second if that's

2249
01:21:15,910 --> 01:21:14,719
okay the end if you gotta use the

2250
01:21:17,270 --> 01:21:15,920
bathroom about five minutes and then

2251
01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:17,280
guys we'll be right back so go use the

2252
01:21:21,189 --> 01:21:19,040
bathroom get your favorite snack because

2253
01:21:23,110 --> 01:21:21,199
we got a lot more to go into and why

2254
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:23,120
when we come back by the way the name

2255
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:25,120
why in the chat has a great question

2256
01:21:28,629 --> 01:21:27,040
that i want to dig into also we're

2257
01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:28,639
hitting the last hour here guys so if

2258
01:21:32,070 --> 01:21:30,080
anybody wants to ask any questions

2259
01:21:33,510 --> 01:21:32,080
besides the stuff we're gonna go into uh

2260
01:21:35,189 --> 01:21:33,520
put that in caps and i will do my best

2261
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:35,199
to get back with you so

2262
01:21:40,229 --> 01:21:36,480
just one minute here i'm gonna throw

2263
01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:40,239
this up and move her backstage guys this

2264
01:21:44,629 --> 01:21:42,880
is crazy stuff i picture my gosh i just

2265
01:21:46,229 --> 01:21:44,639
i don't even know what to think

2266
01:21:47,430 --> 01:21:46,239
crazy stuff right there i tell you what

2267
01:21:48,950 --> 01:21:47,440
in a good way

2268
01:21:51,030 --> 01:21:48,960
um all right let me throw this up

2269
01:21:53,750 --> 01:21:51,040
everybody we'll be right back

2270
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:53,760
and don't you dare don't you dare

2271
01:21:58,830 --> 01:21:55,440
thinking about going anywhere else we'll

2272
01:22:33,170 --> 01:21:58,840
be right back here

2273
01:24:13,270 --> 01:22:45,190
[Music]

2274
01:24:17,590 --> 01:24:15,830
and look at that guys we are back

2275
01:24:18,390 --> 01:24:17,600
already

2276
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:18,400
uh

2277
01:24:22,310 --> 01:24:20,080
all righty oh here she is i'll bring her

2278
01:24:24,629 --> 01:24:22,320
back in so it wasn't quite five minutes

2279
01:24:25,990 --> 01:24:24,639
but we got us close we were able to be

2280
01:24:28,550 --> 01:24:26,000
able to get some more coffee is that

2281
01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:31,590
yes that's right always coffee always

2282
01:24:35,189 --> 01:24:33,600
heck yeah i normally do the coffee but

2283
01:24:36,550 --> 01:24:35,199
i've been doing i tell you what

2284
01:24:38,950 --> 01:24:36,560
we're doing these lately i've been i've

2285
01:24:41,430 --> 01:24:38,960
been rolling with uh with tea so like

2286
01:24:43,110 --> 01:24:41,440
honey and tea like raspberry tea i do i

2287
01:24:45,510 --> 01:24:43,120
do a lot of that because i do drink a

2288
01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:45,520
lot of coffee during the day

2289
01:24:48,790 --> 01:24:47,360
but there was all the creamer and all

2290
01:24:50,149 --> 01:24:48,800
the other unhealthy stuff so it's like

2291
01:24:52,550 --> 01:24:50,159
i'll tell you what i'll start going with

2292
01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:52,560
the with the tea we'll see they say it's

2293
01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:54,000
better i don't know if that's true or

2294
01:24:59,110 --> 01:24:57,360
not tea is very good i enjoy it

2295
01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:59,120
uh so really quick then let's just get

2296
01:25:01,990 --> 01:25:00,480
right back into it i'm trying to catch

2297
01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:02,000
up uh i i thought we were gonna go a

2298
01:25:04,390 --> 01:25:03,280
little longer than five minutes guys and

2299
01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:04,400
we went a little i think we did like two

2300
01:25:06,629 --> 01:25:05,360
and a half minutes but that's good now

2301
01:25:08,149 --> 01:25:06,639
they gave everybody a second there so if

2302
01:25:09,510 --> 01:25:08,159
i missed anything in the chat i'm trying

2303
01:25:11,510 --> 01:25:09,520
to make sure i didn't miss anything

2304
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:11,520
please put any question you have in caps

2305
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:13,199
if possible if you did put one up there

2306
01:25:16,550 --> 01:25:14,960
i will definitely do my best to read

2307
01:25:18,310 --> 01:25:16,560
back through it um but i want to go back

2308
01:25:19,590 --> 01:25:18,320
to a wise question really quick and they

2309
01:25:21,750 --> 01:25:19,600
asked us a while ago i know we're kind

2310
01:25:24,070 --> 01:25:21,760
of backtracking just a little bit

2311
01:25:25,189 --> 01:25:24,080
uh which was in regards and if you're

2312
01:25:27,510 --> 01:25:25,199
okay sharing this and if you're not

2313
01:25:29,750 --> 01:25:27,520
entirely up to you but why asked have

2314
01:25:31,350 --> 01:25:29,760
you noticed at all with your oldest

2315
01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:31,360
having any what you could say quote

2316
01:25:33,830 --> 01:25:32,960
unquote special abilities has there ever

2317
01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:33,840
been

2318
01:25:40,629 --> 01:25:37,840
an inkling of something unusual that way

2319
01:25:45,350 --> 01:25:40,639
no uh what's actually really interesting

2320
01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:48,950
uh regular uh like not maybe

2321
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:51,199
disconnected i mean

2322
01:25:56,070 --> 01:25:55,199
it's uh um my middle child actually is

2323
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:56,080
um

2324
01:26:00,550 --> 01:25:58,000
very

2325
01:26:02,950 --> 01:26:00,560
it's like she can talk to animals as

2326
01:26:05,189 --> 01:26:02,960
weird as that sounds but like

2327
01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:05,199
i've never seen animals react to

2328
01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:07,360
somebody the way that they do her

2329
01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:08,960
um

2330
01:26:12,629 --> 01:26:10,560
the way that they just flock to her the

2331
01:26:15,189 --> 01:26:12,639
way that she knows what they're thinking

2332
01:26:17,189 --> 01:26:15,199
or feeling or whatever and how they seem

2333
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:17,199
to respond to these

2334
01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:19,360
knowings that she has and then

2335
01:26:25,669 --> 01:26:22,560
my youngest well

2336
01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:25,679
she's definitely she she can see things

2337
01:26:30,229 --> 01:26:28,800
for sure um there was one time and just

2338
01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:30,239
really quick that

2339
01:26:32,550 --> 01:26:31,600
she said

2340
01:26:34,629 --> 01:26:32,560
mommy

2341
01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:34,639
there's a girl in the attic

2342
01:26:38,790 --> 01:26:37,280
and i was like okay

2343
01:26:41,669 --> 01:26:38,800
and she goes

2344
01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:41,679
she has black hair

2345
01:26:44,950 --> 01:26:43,440
and she's sitting there and this was

2346
01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:44,960
what was really weird

2347
01:26:51,270 --> 01:26:47,280
she described okay so there's these

2348
01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:51,280
things where it's like a candle

2349
01:26:56,709 --> 01:26:54,000
it's like like an old antique candle

2350
01:26:59,510 --> 01:26:56,719
lamp but it turns the heat from the

2351
01:27:02,070 --> 01:26:59,520
candle turns the thing and so and then

2352
01:27:04,629 --> 01:27:02,080
there's these cutouts so the shadows

2353
01:27:06,950 --> 01:27:04,639
dance around on the on the walls

2354
01:27:09,350 --> 01:27:06,960
and she described this to a t and i can

2355
01:27:12,229 --> 01:27:09,360
tell you for a fact that we've never

2356
01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:12,239
ever seen anything like that on tv

2357
01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:15,040
we hadn't taken her antique shopping

2358
01:27:19,750 --> 01:27:17,760
nobody in my family has owned one or at

2359
01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:19,760
the time you know when i was married his

2360
01:27:24,070 --> 01:27:21,440
family didn't either

2361
01:27:24,950 --> 01:27:24,080
so i mean

2362
01:27:26,629 --> 01:27:24,960
yeah

2363
01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:26,639
interesting

2364
01:27:32,550 --> 01:27:28,960
yeah i you know

2365
01:27:34,870 --> 01:27:32,560
i think it's very uh intriguing

2366
01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:34,880
at least that whatever happened

2367
01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:36,800
whatever the situation was

2368
01:27:41,510 --> 01:27:39,520
uh in regards to that story you shared

2369
01:27:42,709 --> 01:27:41,520
this the the sequence of events that led

2370
01:27:44,070 --> 01:27:42,719
up to that i could see why people are

2371
01:27:45,350 --> 01:27:44,080
curious because i was too i wouldn't why

2372
01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:45,360
i asked the question i was like yeah i'm

2373
01:27:47,830 --> 01:27:46,800
kind of thinking about that but

2374
01:27:49,990 --> 01:27:47,840
you know

2375
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:50,000
who's to say and again it's total

2376
01:27:52,790 --> 01:27:51,520
speculation but who's to say that you

2377
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:52,800
know what

2378
01:27:55,510 --> 01:27:54,000
it seems

2379
01:27:56,709 --> 01:27:55,520
from my limited experience with those

2380
01:27:58,790 --> 01:27:56,719
and hearing their stories of their

2381
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:58,800
experiences that when a person has an

2382
01:28:03,270 --> 01:28:00,960
interaction or has an event that

2383
01:28:04,149 --> 01:28:03,280
involves perhaps their children that

2384
01:28:05,669 --> 01:28:04,159
that

2385
01:28:07,590 --> 01:28:05,679
generally rolls into the other ones as

2386
01:28:10,229 --> 01:28:07,600
well but again that's i'm not saying

2387
01:28:12,790 --> 01:28:10,239
that's the case for every single thing

2388
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:12,800
but have you ever had a fear that way i

2389
01:28:15,910 --> 01:28:14,080
guess with your with your children like

2390
01:28:17,430 --> 01:28:15,920
how do you approach this conversation

2391
01:28:20,390 --> 01:28:17,440
because i don't know the ages exactly

2392
01:28:21,910 --> 01:28:20,400
but are they old enough to

2393
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:21,920
really have the conversation with you

2394
01:28:25,750 --> 01:28:24,400
about what the other realm could be or

2395
01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:25,760
seeing something or have an experience

2396
01:28:29,030 --> 01:28:27,120
have you sat them down and talked to

2397
01:28:32,070 --> 01:28:29,040
them about that

2398
01:28:34,629 --> 01:28:32,080
yeah so they are very i mean

2399
01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:34,639
they know what i do with uh you know my

2400
01:28:38,629 --> 01:28:36,719
podcasting and stuff and they

2401
01:28:39,830 --> 01:28:38,639
they have checked in and watched dave's

2402
01:28:41,669 --> 01:28:39,840
show and

2403
01:28:43,830 --> 01:28:41,679
they watch you know a bunch of other

2404
01:28:46,229 --> 01:28:43,840
people on youtube and and it's really

2405
01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:46,239
cool because they are um

2406
01:28:50,149 --> 01:28:48,480
even though they're kids they'll say hey

2407
01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:50,159
is there somebody that you can recommend

2408
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:51,920
that isn't going to lie to us

2409
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:52,960
that uh

2410
01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:54,480
that's more along the lines of the

2411
01:28:58,870 --> 01:28:57,600
paranormal research and not just

2412
01:29:01,830 --> 01:28:58,880
trying to

2413
01:29:04,310 --> 01:29:01,840
you know make a buck on youtube and and

2414
01:29:06,390 --> 01:29:04,320
fake these paranormal things

2415
01:29:08,950 --> 01:29:06,400
um

2416
01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:08,960
yeah so so i mean i've gotten really

2417
01:29:13,669 --> 01:29:11,840
lucky that they are they're very open

2418
01:29:15,189 --> 01:29:13,679
and stuff but

2419
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:15,199
again um

2420
01:29:21,110 --> 01:29:18,400
i let the questions come to me and

2421
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:21,120
one thing really quick that i will say

2422
01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:23,440
the the shadow

2423
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:25,840
entities the cloaked hooded figures that

2424
01:29:29,590 --> 01:29:27,600
i would see as a child

2425
01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:29,600
i later learned that my sister was

2426
01:29:34,790 --> 01:29:31,920
seeing them too um

2427
01:29:36,790 --> 01:29:34,800
and i was really shocked because it was

2428
01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:36,800
like wow okay so

2429
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:39,280
i'm not alone this isn't just me

2430
01:29:42,470 --> 01:29:40,719
um

2431
01:29:44,390 --> 01:29:42,480
and then later on

2432
01:29:45,510 --> 01:29:44,400
because i it was scary i didn't want to

2433
01:29:47,830 --> 01:29:45,520
talk about it

2434
01:29:49,350 --> 01:29:47,840
and i didn't ever want to put that in my

2435
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:49,360
kids brains

2436
01:29:51,669 --> 01:29:50,050
however

2437
01:29:54,070 --> 01:29:51,679
[Music]

2438
01:29:56,390 --> 01:29:54,080
they did eventually end up coming to me

2439
01:29:58,629 --> 01:29:56,400
and it was really strange because

2440
01:30:01,270 --> 01:29:58,639
they came to me and they said you know i

2441
01:30:03,590 --> 01:30:01,280
saw this by my bed and it was a it was a

2442
01:30:05,189 --> 01:30:03,600
cloaked hooded figure

2443
01:30:07,350 --> 01:30:05,199
uh

2444
01:30:08,709 --> 01:30:07,360
maybe two weeks later my sister called

2445
01:30:10,790 --> 01:30:08,719
me

2446
01:30:13,110 --> 01:30:10,800
and she said that her children had

2447
01:30:15,669 --> 01:30:13,120
experienced the same thing and she swore

2448
01:30:18,070 --> 01:30:15,679
up and down that she never told her kids

2449
01:30:20,550 --> 01:30:18,080
about this at all and so both our

2450
01:30:22,790 --> 01:30:20,560
children we live we live like four hours

2451
01:30:24,310 --> 01:30:22,800
away from each other we're lucky to see

2452
01:30:27,110 --> 01:30:24,320
each other once a year

2453
01:30:29,110 --> 01:30:27,120
and so i mean the kids have only met a

2454
01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:29,120
handful of times and they don't they

2455
01:30:34,149 --> 01:30:30,320
don't talk

2456
01:30:36,070 --> 01:30:34,159
you know and so it was

2457
01:30:37,510 --> 01:30:36,080
you know

2458
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:37,520
wow i don't know

2459
01:30:39,990 --> 01:30:38,320
uh

2460
01:30:41,110 --> 01:30:40,000
another i love that by the way it's him

2461
01:30:42,310 --> 01:30:41,120
and it's pretty funny they're talking in

2462
01:30:43,590 --> 01:30:42,320
here in the chat about how people

2463
01:30:44,870 --> 01:30:43,600
communicate with animals and different

2464
01:30:47,110 --> 01:30:44,880
things around them and she was like wait

2465
01:30:48,790 --> 01:30:47,120
you can hear the plants uh there's some

2466
01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:48,800
truth to that uh but we do have a

2467
01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:52,239
question here from ufo or ufo ologist

2468
01:30:56,310 --> 01:30:54,480
and they say uh lady anne have you tried

2469
01:30:59,110 --> 01:30:56,320
to establish ongoing telepathic

2470
01:31:00,629 --> 01:30:59,120
communication with them

2471
01:31:04,070 --> 01:31:00,639
uh

2472
01:31:06,950 --> 01:31:04,080
no i okay

2473
01:31:11,590 --> 01:31:09,990
another this goes into another story i

2474
01:31:13,189 --> 01:31:11,600
love it this is what we're here for we

2475
01:31:14,709 --> 01:31:13,199
are here for the story

2476
01:31:16,390 --> 01:31:14,719
we're here for the

2477
01:31:18,310 --> 01:31:16,400
sharing the strange the weird it's

2478
01:31:19,830 --> 01:31:18,320
halloween if there's ever a time to

2479
01:31:21,270 --> 01:31:19,840
reach people and then to be more open it

2480
01:31:23,750 --> 01:31:21,280
is now so

2481
01:31:27,030 --> 01:31:23,760
i say share away

2482
01:31:28,310 --> 01:31:27,040
well okay so um

2483
01:31:30,390 --> 01:31:28,320
back to

2484
01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:30,400
when my dad was talking to me about you

2485
01:31:34,390 --> 01:31:32,320
know okay well this is a ufo and this is

2486
01:31:36,070 --> 01:31:34,400
a satellite light and everything and

2487
01:31:37,910 --> 01:31:36,080
when i would see them in the sky and i

2488
01:31:40,149 --> 01:31:37,920
could see them moving around

2489
01:31:41,990 --> 01:31:40,159
um one of the

2490
01:31:44,950 --> 01:31:42,000
um

2491
01:31:49,030 --> 01:31:44,960
one night i told my friend hey

2492
01:31:51,430 --> 01:31:49,040
i i want to go stargazing with you so

2493
01:31:52,629 --> 01:31:51,440
come on over and let's let's watch the

2494
01:31:55,910 --> 01:31:52,639
sky

2495
01:31:57,830 --> 01:31:55,920
and it was during the blue hour and we

2496
01:31:59,350 --> 01:31:57,840
had our snacks and we had our chairs and

2497
01:32:01,110 --> 01:31:59,360
everything like that

2498
01:32:02,870 --> 01:32:01,120
well

2499
01:32:06,070 --> 01:32:02,880
prior to this

2500
01:32:08,310 --> 01:32:06,080
there was occasions where i was watching

2501
01:32:09,750 --> 01:32:08,320
these things in the sky

2502
01:32:11,830 --> 01:32:09,760
and

2503
01:32:13,830 --> 01:32:11,840
i kind of wondered okay are you going to

2504
01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:13,840
go this way are you going to go that way

2505
01:32:18,310 --> 01:32:16,080
and it would

2506
01:32:20,550 --> 01:32:18,320
but then again maybe i was just guessing

2507
01:32:21,990 --> 01:32:20,560
maybe maybe i noticed a pattern you know

2508
01:32:24,830 --> 01:32:22,000
kind of a thing so maybe it wasn't a

2509
01:32:28,070 --> 01:32:26,790
communication but

2510
01:32:29,270 --> 01:32:28,080
you know maybe it was guessing who knows

2511
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:29,280
but anyways

2512
01:32:31,270 --> 01:32:30,130
so um

2513
01:32:33,030 --> 01:32:31,280
[Music]

2514
01:32:35,590 --> 01:32:33,040
this had been happening

2515
01:32:37,270 --> 01:32:35,600
and then my friend was over and we're

2516
01:32:40,629 --> 01:32:37,280
we're sitting there and again it's the

2517
01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:40,639
blue hour and everything well being rock

2518
01:32:45,030 --> 01:32:43,199
hounders they had this huge rock garden

2519
01:32:47,510 --> 01:32:45,040
that surrounded our house

2520
01:32:49,510 --> 01:32:47,520
when you walk on these rocks

2521
01:32:51,590 --> 01:32:49,520
it's not like walking on river rock a

2522
01:32:53,590 --> 01:32:51,600
river rock's going to scrape when you

2523
01:32:54,470 --> 01:32:53,600
walk on it but like agates and stuff

2524
01:32:57,110 --> 01:32:54,480
it's gonna

2525
01:32:58,390 --> 01:32:57,120
kind of tank a little bit and scrape in

2526
01:32:59,270 --> 01:32:58,400
a different way

2527
01:33:01,430 --> 01:32:59,280
um

2528
01:33:05,030 --> 01:33:01,440
and i could hear it was like somebody

2529
01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:05,040
was walking in the rock garden behind me

2530
01:33:10,390 --> 01:33:08,400
now i'm looking i'm looking behind her

2531
01:33:12,709 --> 01:33:10,400
and i'm like look behind me look behind

2532
01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:12,719
me you know kind of a thing and she's

2533
01:33:18,470 --> 01:33:15,040
looking behind me and she doesn't see

2534
01:33:20,149 --> 01:33:18,480
anything at all and

2535
01:33:22,950 --> 01:33:20,159
my dear friend

2536
01:33:25,270 --> 01:33:22,960
unfortunately i ended up

2537
01:33:26,709 --> 01:33:25,280
just

2538
01:33:29,990 --> 01:33:26,719
i bolted

2539
01:33:31,750 --> 01:33:30,000
i got up and i ran

2540
01:33:33,110 --> 01:33:31,760
the old fighter flight kicked right in

2541
01:33:34,830 --> 01:33:33,120
you're like i just got to be faster than

2542
01:33:36,390 --> 01:33:34,840
them that's all it

2543
01:33:39,030 --> 01:33:36,400
is

2544
01:33:40,950 --> 01:33:39,040
i mean goodness if i'm running

2545
01:33:44,950 --> 01:33:40,960
i'm not a runner i'm not into that so if

2546
01:33:49,110 --> 01:33:47,030
that was my that was my thought so just

2547
01:33:50,870 --> 01:33:49,120
you know and so we get back inside and

2548
01:33:53,110 --> 01:33:50,880
we get into the house

2549
01:33:56,390 --> 01:33:53,120
and i go into my room

2550
01:33:59,030 --> 01:33:56,400
now when you walked into my house

2551
01:34:01,110 --> 01:33:59,040
just my dad's room the front door and

2552
01:34:03,110 --> 01:34:01,120
the living room were

2553
01:34:05,510 --> 01:34:03,120
on that one level

2554
01:34:06,870 --> 01:34:05,520
but the ground went down

2555
01:34:10,070 --> 01:34:06,880
and so

2556
01:34:12,390 --> 01:34:10,080
like to get to my room on on the main

2557
01:34:14,229 --> 01:34:12,400
floor you would have needed a ladder

2558
01:34:16,070 --> 01:34:14,239
like there's no way there's there's

2559
01:34:17,510 --> 01:34:16,080
nothing no patio

2560
01:34:19,750 --> 01:34:17,520
no way that you can be outside of my

2561
01:34:21,590 --> 01:34:19,760
bedroom door or window

2562
01:34:24,229 --> 01:34:21,600
and

2563
01:34:26,390 --> 01:34:24,239
my friend you know again she was more

2564
01:34:30,149 --> 01:34:26,400
serious you know she was she was a lot

2565
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:32,390
you know believe in all this crazy stuff

2566
01:34:36,790 --> 01:34:34,800
that i did um i didn't really talk to

2567
01:34:38,149 --> 01:34:36,800
her about ufos or anything like that

2568
01:34:40,070 --> 01:34:38,159
because of course i thought she'd think

2569
01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:40,080
i was super weird

2570
01:34:45,109 --> 01:34:42,320
well we're sitting there after this

2571
01:34:46,950 --> 01:34:45,119
experience and and she was just like

2572
01:34:49,109 --> 01:34:46,960
yeah that was weird

2573
01:34:51,109 --> 01:34:49,119
well

2574
01:34:54,550 --> 01:34:51,119
i'm i'm looking at her so my window's

2575
01:34:59,510 --> 01:34:56,709
and she just she just

2576
01:35:03,109 --> 01:34:59,520
buries herself on my bed in the pillow

2577
01:35:04,070 --> 01:35:03,119
and i'm like what are you doing like

2578
01:35:05,910 --> 01:35:04,080
hello

2579
01:35:08,470 --> 01:35:05,920
you know and she wouldn't respond she

2580
01:35:11,030 --> 01:35:08,480
just would not respond so i'm shaking

2581
01:35:13,109 --> 01:35:11,040
her and i'm just like what are you doing

2582
01:35:15,430 --> 01:35:13,119
and you know

2583
01:35:16,390 --> 01:35:15,440
so finally she sits up and man she was

2584
01:35:18,070 --> 01:35:16,400
crying

2585
01:35:20,229 --> 01:35:18,080
this is somebody like i've only seen

2586
01:35:22,950 --> 01:35:20,239
like i still know her and i have only

2587
01:35:25,270 --> 01:35:22,960
seen her cry like a handful of times

2588
01:35:28,229 --> 01:35:25,280
like what is going on

2589
01:35:31,109 --> 01:35:28,239
she points behind me

2590
01:35:32,629 --> 01:35:31,119
and she says that she saw fingers

2591
01:35:35,750 --> 01:35:32,639
in my window

2592
01:35:38,149 --> 01:35:35,760
do that like like wave

2593
01:35:39,510 --> 01:35:38,159
and i was just like

2594
01:35:42,470 --> 01:35:39,520
i didn't want to believe her i'm just

2595
01:35:44,149 --> 01:35:42,480
sitting there going no way no way

2596
01:35:45,189 --> 01:35:44,159
you know so i shut the blinds and

2597
01:35:47,350 --> 01:35:45,199
everything

2598
01:35:51,109 --> 01:35:47,360
well

2599
01:35:53,350 --> 01:35:51,119
it was a couple weeks after this um

2600
01:35:55,109 --> 01:35:53,360
that my dad decided he's like hey

2601
01:35:57,590 --> 01:35:55,119
let's go on a camping trip this is like

2602
01:35:59,669 --> 01:35:57,600
a graduation it's fishing and camping

2603
01:36:01,350 --> 01:35:59,679
and everything and so you know we we

2604
01:36:04,790 --> 01:36:01,360
drive um

2605
01:36:06,550 --> 01:36:04,800
four hours away and we um

2606
01:36:08,470 --> 01:36:06,560
are camping

2607
01:36:10,550 --> 01:36:08,480
well this is the first the first

2608
01:36:14,070 --> 01:36:10,560
campsite that we were at

2609
01:36:17,590 --> 01:36:15,830
and i can feel

2610
01:36:20,790 --> 01:36:17,600
that same feeling that i did when we

2611
01:36:22,149 --> 01:36:20,800
were looking at the constellations

2612
01:36:24,790 --> 01:36:22,159
and

2613
01:36:27,830 --> 01:36:24,800
i can't tell if there's something

2614
01:36:30,229 --> 01:36:27,840
outside the tent or not

2615
01:36:31,669 --> 01:36:30,239
and in this feeling

2616
01:36:32,629 --> 01:36:31,679
my poor friend

2617
01:36:36,070 --> 01:36:32,639
i

2618
01:36:37,109 --> 01:36:36,080
and so

2619
01:36:40,070 --> 01:36:37,119
boom

2620
01:36:42,390 --> 01:36:40,080
i unzip the tent i'm gone i'm running

2621
01:36:45,109 --> 01:36:42,400
towards the woman's bathroom

2622
01:36:51,189 --> 01:36:49,030
i i'm just like you know so so i run and

2623
01:36:53,030 --> 01:36:51,199
you know she she's cut on she's caught

2624
01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:53,040
on she's running after me okay we are

2625
01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:55,440
headed to the women's bathroom we go in

2626
01:36:58,470 --> 01:36:57,360
there and we shut the door

2627
01:37:00,229 --> 01:36:58,480
well

2628
01:37:01,830 --> 01:37:00,239
you know we're standing there going what

2629
01:37:03,189 --> 01:37:01,840
what is going on what is going on

2630
01:37:05,430 --> 01:37:03,199
because you know when we ran out of the

2631
01:37:07,830 --> 01:37:05,440
tent we didn't see anybody

2632
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:07,840
but we could hear stuff behind us as we

2633
01:37:12,229 --> 01:37:10,480
ran and when we were in there there was

2634
01:37:14,390 --> 01:37:12,239
that um

2635
01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:14,400
you know the the gravel like a gravel

2636
01:37:17,830 --> 01:37:16,719
road stuff in front of the women's

2637
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:17,840
bathroom

2638
01:37:23,830 --> 01:37:21,600
and you could hear something someone

2639
01:37:25,109 --> 01:37:23,840
pacing back and forth in front of the

2640
01:37:27,109 --> 01:37:25,119
door

2641
01:37:28,629 --> 01:37:27,119
so finally i'm getting to the point

2642
01:37:31,590 --> 01:37:28,639
where

2643
01:37:33,030 --> 01:37:31,600
i've been scared so much and the feeling

2644
01:37:35,430 --> 01:37:33,040
is so intense

2645
01:37:37,830 --> 01:37:35,440
that i'm like

2646
01:37:40,550 --> 01:37:37,840
go get in the go get in the stall get in

2647
01:37:41,910 --> 01:37:40,560
the furthest stall and you stay there

2648
01:37:43,910 --> 01:37:41,920
go there

2649
01:37:45,910 --> 01:37:43,920
i can't i can't take this anymore i

2650
01:37:47,270 --> 01:37:45,920
don't want to be stuck here because now

2651
01:37:48,470 --> 01:37:47,280
we were really stuck there was no other

2652
01:37:51,189 --> 01:37:48,480
way out

2653
01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:51,199
right so

2654
01:37:55,030 --> 01:37:53,040
this is this is how the beginning of

2655
01:37:57,030 --> 01:37:55,040
every horror film begins right we're

2656
01:37:59,350 --> 01:37:57,040
going we're gonna go camping it'll be

2657
01:38:01,160 --> 01:37:59,360
nice now here we are right

2658
01:38:03,109 --> 01:38:01,170
public stalls

2659
01:38:06,390 --> 01:38:03,119
[Laughter]

2660
01:38:08,229 --> 01:38:06,400
yeah no so at this point i'm done

2661
01:38:09,510 --> 01:38:08,239
and i rip open that door and i'm like

2662
01:38:11,990 --> 01:38:09,520
what

2663
01:38:14,550 --> 01:38:12,000
because i'm just i'm just done at this

2664
01:38:18,709 --> 01:38:16,870
nothing

2665
01:38:20,790 --> 01:38:18,719
there's nobody there

2666
01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:20,800
nothing all i see

2667
01:38:24,070 --> 01:38:22,320
is trees

2668
01:38:26,229 --> 01:38:24,080
there's just a bunch of trees and that's

2669
01:38:27,109 --> 01:38:26,239
it

2670
01:38:30,870 --> 01:38:27,119
so

2671
01:38:32,310 --> 01:38:30,880
have deleted i didn't mean to cut you

2672
01:38:33,669 --> 01:38:32,320
out so your friend but your friend

2673
01:38:36,310 --> 01:38:33,679
experienced this too did they just run

2674
01:38:38,070 --> 01:38:36,320
because of you or did they did they hear

2675
01:38:38,790 --> 01:38:38,080
anything did they also hear the sound as

2676
01:38:41,430 --> 01:38:38,800
well

2677
01:38:43,590 --> 01:38:41,440
no we did talk about it before i ran she

2678
01:38:45,669 --> 01:38:43,600
heard something too around the text okay

2679
01:38:48,149 --> 01:38:45,679
and then yeah so

2680
01:38:50,070 --> 01:38:48,159
yeah um so finally she comes out of the

2681
01:38:51,990 --> 01:38:50,080
stall and she's like what happened and i

2682
01:38:54,629 --> 01:38:52,000
was like there's nothing there

2683
01:38:56,070 --> 01:38:54,639
there's nobody um just a bunch of trees

2684
01:38:58,550 --> 01:38:56,080
you know

2685
01:39:00,470 --> 01:38:58,560
so we end up

2686
01:39:02,709 --> 01:39:00,480
we're standing there and she's like okay

2687
01:39:04,790 --> 01:39:02,719
well let's just walk back to the tent

2688
01:39:06,229 --> 01:39:04,800
just walk though don't run we'll just

2689
01:39:07,350 --> 01:39:06,239
walk

2690
01:39:08,550 --> 01:39:07,360
okay

2691
01:39:10,550 --> 01:39:08,560
so that's what we're gonna do we're

2692
01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:10,560
gonna act like we're not afraid that

2693
01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:12,960
didn't just happen so we're gonna go to

2694
01:39:17,990 --> 01:39:14,320
the tent

2695
01:39:20,070 --> 01:39:18,000
and we go to sleep

2696
01:39:22,629 --> 01:39:20,080
and it's the next morning

2697
01:39:25,669 --> 01:39:22,639
now it's time to you know get up it's

2698
01:39:27,189 --> 01:39:25,679
daylight huh awesome okay let's go and

2699
01:39:29,189 --> 01:39:27,199
brush our teeth and get ready for the

2700
01:39:31,430 --> 01:39:29,199
day what are we gonna do

2701
01:39:35,030 --> 01:39:31,440
and i'm walking to the to the restroom

2702
01:39:37,910 --> 01:39:36,330
and i'm and i'm walking

2703
01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:37,920
[Music]

2704
01:39:40,629 --> 01:39:39,280
and i look out

2705
01:39:44,390 --> 01:39:40,639
at

2706
01:39:45,990 --> 01:39:44,400
before

2707
01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:46,000
hmm

2708
01:39:50,709 --> 01:39:48,480
there's no trees

2709
01:39:53,189 --> 01:39:50,719
it is a gravel lot

2710
01:39:55,669 --> 01:39:53,199
there's no trees

2711
01:39:57,430 --> 01:39:55,679
like it's just gone the trees that you

2712
01:39:59,830 --> 01:39:57,440
guys are camping the backdrop is just

2713
01:40:01,990 --> 01:39:59,840
it's just not there well the trees that

2714
01:40:04,790 --> 01:40:02,000
i saw in front of

2715
01:40:07,590 --> 01:40:04,800
the the women's bathroom that night

2716
01:40:09,109 --> 01:40:07,600
late that night all these treats

2717
01:40:11,430 --> 01:40:09,119
there's nothing there

2718
01:40:14,149 --> 01:40:11,440
there's no trees it's just this gravel

2719
01:40:16,070 --> 01:40:15,270
did you bring it up to your front i mean

2720
01:40:17,270 --> 01:40:16,080
because they were still there at this

2721
01:40:18,470 --> 01:40:17,280
time as well i mean were you freaking

2722
01:40:20,870 --> 01:40:18,480
out a little bit are you thinking that

2723
01:40:24,629 --> 01:40:20,880
oh i'm just remembering this

2724
01:40:26,550 --> 01:40:24,639
yeah oh yeah no and she had nothing

2725
01:40:27,669 --> 01:40:26,560
oh my gosh that's so what do you what do

2726
01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:27,679
you chalk that up to if you're

2727
01:40:30,870 --> 01:40:29,199
speculating here what do you think took

2728
01:40:32,790 --> 01:40:30,880
place

2729
01:40:35,350 --> 01:40:32,800
i mean okay

2730
01:40:37,350 --> 01:40:35,360
so so recently something that i've been

2731
01:40:38,310 --> 01:40:37,360
learning about is time slips

2732
01:40:40,709 --> 01:40:38,320
you know

2733
01:40:42,149 --> 01:40:40,719
there's this new research that i've come

2734
01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:42,159
across new to me

2735
01:40:46,790 --> 01:40:43,920
that sometimes you think that you see a

2736
01:40:48,470 --> 01:40:46,800
ghost but it's like a it's a time slip

2737
01:40:50,950 --> 01:40:48,480
and you're actually seeing an actual

2738
01:40:52,310 --> 01:40:50,960
person and and they may see you

2739
01:40:54,629 --> 01:40:52,320
but they think that you're a ghost but

2740
01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:54,639
you're not and so who's to say that

2741
01:41:00,470 --> 01:40:57,440
can't happen with um

2742
01:41:03,669 --> 01:41:00,480
trees and stuff i mean

2743
01:41:05,669 --> 01:41:03,679
yeah no 100 i mean there's so many times

2744
01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:05,679
i mean again maybe this is a a terrible

2745
01:41:09,510 --> 01:41:07,600
term to use and people get whatever with

2746
01:41:10,470 --> 01:41:09,520
it but the the thinning of the veil you

2747
01:41:12,709 --> 01:41:10,480
know like

2748
01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:12,719
right right perhaps you were just seeing

2749
01:41:15,990 --> 01:41:13,920
that other thing and one of the most

2750
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:16,000
amazing stories i ever heard that i'm

2751
01:41:19,990 --> 01:41:18,400
trying to remember i think it was on

2752
01:41:21,350 --> 01:41:20,000
another podcast i cannot remember the

2753
01:41:23,030 --> 01:41:21,360
name of the guest

2754
01:41:24,870 --> 01:41:23,040
but they spoke about an instance and i

2755
01:41:27,430 --> 01:41:24,880
believe i've shared it on here before

2756
01:41:29,030 --> 01:41:27,440
um where she was she was part of a

2757
01:41:30,390 --> 01:41:29,040
paranormal team and she was and i forget

2758
01:41:31,750 --> 01:41:30,400
what the procedure is exactly called but

2759
01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:31,760
you go in a room

2760
01:41:35,109 --> 01:41:33,199
and you put up a tape recorder or a

2761
01:41:36,390 --> 01:41:35,119
record of some sort and you'll just ask

2762
01:41:38,310 --> 01:41:36,400
questions and then you'll play that

2763
01:41:39,590 --> 01:41:38,320
audio back later and see if there were

2764
01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:39,600
answers that you didn't audibly hear at

2765
01:41:43,990 --> 01:41:41,440
the time right i don't know do you know

2766
01:41:46,790 --> 01:41:44,000
what the name of that is with that

2767
01:41:48,629 --> 01:41:46,800
yeah they're trying to capture like evps

2768
01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:48,639
okay all right i wasn't sure listen

2769
01:41:51,350 --> 01:41:50,159
there's fancy words here guys like i

2770
01:41:52,709 --> 01:41:51,360
said my name

2771
01:41:54,950 --> 01:41:52,719
the name of this show and best and

2772
01:41:58,790 --> 01:41:54,960
that's what i can handle so anyways what

2773
01:42:00,310 --> 01:41:58,800
was crazy is when she played it back

2774
01:42:01,669 --> 01:42:00,320
there was a moment where she was

2775
01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:01,679
discussing she thought she was picking

2776
01:42:05,750 --> 01:42:03,360
up on she was feeling the energy but she

2777
01:42:08,310 --> 01:42:05,760
wasn't audibly hearing anything

2778
01:42:10,310 --> 01:42:08,320
but she was speaking out loud

2779
01:42:12,390 --> 01:42:10,320
and in her recording she picked up one

2780
01:42:13,590 --> 01:42:12,400
spot in particular that said she heard a

2781
01:42:15,270 --> 01:42:13,600
little girl say

2782
01:42:16,709 --> 01:42:15,280
um

2783
01:42:18,550 --> 01:42:16,719
she heard a man's voice an older man's

2784
01:42:19,990 --> 01:42:18,560
voice say they're here they're here and

2785
01:42:21,189 --> 01:42:20,000
then she heard a little girl's voice say

2786
01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:21,199
i want to he listen i want to be able to

2787
01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:23,040
listen to let me hear and he said and

2788
01:42:27,189 --> 01:42:24,560
then the man's voice came back out again

2789
01:42:29,430 --> 01:42:27,199
and said um that's it i'm right there

2790
01:42:32,229 --> 01:42:29,440
that spirit it's here again we're gonna

2791
01:42:33,990 --> 01:42:32,239
or the spirits in the room so in their

2792
01:42:35,669 --> 01:42:34,000
whatever existence or dimension or

2793
01:42:38,790 --> 01:42:35,679
however you want to lay it out there

2794
01:42:41,030 --> 01:42:38,800
maybe it is a time slip she was she was

2795
01:42:43,189 --> 01:42:41,040
theirs their ghost or their paranormal

2796
01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:43,199
experience and i've always found it so

2797
01:42:46,470 --> 01:42:45,040
interesting that with some of the things

2798
01:42:47,750 --> 01:42:46,480
that happen

2799
01:42:49,030 --> 01:42:47,760
uh

2800
01:42:50,709 --> 01:42:49,040
i don't think we can always chalk it

2801
01:42:52,390 --> 01:42:50,719
into a very black and white like well it

2802
01:42:53,669 --> 01:42:52,400
was just a ufo or it was just this it's

2803
01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:53,679
like man we just

2804
01:42:57,109 --> 01:42:55,679
we say i have no clue what's going on

2805
01:43:00,070 --> 01:42:57,119
but man i'm going to enjoy the ride in

2806
01:43:02,709 --> 01:43:00,080
the journey on the way there uh but yeah

2807
01:43:04,709 --> 01:43:02,719
excuse me for you to go through that

2808
01:43:06,790 --> 01:43:04,719
and then the tr i mean you physically

2809
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:06,800
had surrounding areas around you change

2810
01:43:09,270 --> 01:43:07,920
that is

2811
01:43:10,870 --> 01:43:09,280
unbelievable

2812
01:43:12,390 --> 01:43:10,880
we had jess on when i did the first

2813
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:12,400
episode with her with cern she had a

2814
01:43:16,950 --> 01:43:14,400
similar experience like this they they

2815
01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:16,960
actually instead of losing time they

2816
01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:19,199
gained time and i'd never heard of that

2817
01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:20,560
one before

2818
01:43:23,350 --> 01:43:21,840
yeah

2819
01:43:24,790 --> 01:43:23,360
wow really quick though so i don't uh

2820
01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:24,800
thank you so much you followed just by

2821
01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:25,840
the way you really didn't have to do it

2822
01:43:28,550 --> 01:43:27,280
but we really appreciate you doing that

2823
01:43:29,750 --> 01:43:28,560
uh but they have a question i believe we

2824
01:43:30,790 --> 01:43:29,760
did ask this but in case they were out

2825
01:43:31,990 --> 01:43:30,800
of the room

2826
01:43:34,310 --> 01:43:32,000
uh we followed up with this question

2827
01:43:35,590 --> 01:43:34,320
when we when we came back have you ever

2828
01:43:37,750 --> 01:43:35,600
tried to establish telepathic

2829
01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:37,760
communication with them from home or

2830
01:43:43,590 --> 01:43:40,960
anywhere time anywhere slash time not

2831
01:43:44,629 --> 01:43:43,600
during an experience so i i apologize

2832
01:43:46,310 --> 01:43:44,639
you follow that you probably run through

2833
01:43:47,910 --> 01:43:46,320
when you ask that question but uh if you

2834
01:43:50,950 --> 01:43:47,920
wouldn't mind answering that one more

2835
01:43:54,709 --> 01:43:50,960
time i'd appreciate it yeah no i mean

2836
01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:54,719
uh it's pretty much um

2837
01:44:01,189 --> 01:43:56,480
i i really haven't

2838
01:44:06,310 --> 01:44:04,229
any i will say in healing group i mean i

2839
01:44:09,430 --> 01:44:06,320
was working on channeling and i believe

2840
01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:09,440
that i had channeled the palladians and

2841
01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:12,880
i gave that message to that woman um who

2842
01:44:17,910 --> 01:44:14,800
ended up going to esteti

2843
01:44:21,590 --> 01:44:17,920
uh other than that i

2844
01:44:23,910 --> 01:44:21,600
i've been told just

2845
01:44:27,669 --> 01:44:23,920
from my spiritual mentors and stuff like

2846
01:44:27,679 --> 01:44:32,070
i don't know how to say it um

2847
01:44:37,189 --> 01:44:34,550
i'm really susceptible to

2848
01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:37,199
experiences or to

2849
01:44:41,590 --> 01:44:39,520
like with channeling for instance uh

2850
01:44:43,750 --> 01:44:41,600
when i was first learning it

2851
01:44:46,950 --> 01:44:43,760
uh i would click out and come back in a

2852
01:44:49,590 --> 01:44:46,960
lot um there was times where i remember

2853
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:49,600
i i remember getting in my car

2854
01:44:53,669 --> 01:44:51,520
and then all of a sudden i was at my

2855
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:53,679
mentor's house and i don't know how i

2856
01:44:57,350 --> 01:44:55,920
got there i have no memory of it

2857
01:44:59,990 --> 01:44:57,360
whatsoever

2858
01:45:01,910 --> 01:45:00,000
um so when it comes to trying to

2859
01:45:03,669 --> 01:45:01,920
communicate with stuff i have it's a

2860
01:45:07,430 --> 01:45:03,679
it's a slippery slope and i have to be

2861
01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:07,440
really careful so i don't try to

2862
01:45:11,270 --> 01:45:09,040
well that brings up another question i

2863
01:45:12,550 --> 01:45:11,280
would love to hit on for a second um if

2864
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:12,560
you wouldn't mind i'm also going to ask

2865
01:45:17,030 --> 01:45:14,560
everybody to chat here as well

2866
01:45:18,070 --> 01:45:17,040
um if they have ever had an experience

2867
01:45:19,030 --> 01:45:18,080
you know

2868
01:45:21,030 --> 01:45:19,040
you mentioned this earlier with the

2869
01:45:22,870 --> 01:45:21,040
picture as far as remote viewing or had

2870
01:45:24,629 --> 01:45:22,880
premonitions now for yourself you've had

2871
01:45:26,149 --> 01:45:24,639
a couple quite a few actually in your

2872
01:45:27,590 --> 01:45:26,159
lifetime and if you'd want to share any

2873
01:45:29,750 --> 01:45:27,600
of those

2874
01:45:33,189 --> 01:45:29,760
what is the difference for yourself in

2875
01:45:34,550 --> 01:45:33,199
the idea of remote viewing and uh let's

2876
01:45:36,229 --> 01:45:34,560
say premonitions are they are they

2877
01:45:38,470 --> 01:45:36,239
intertwined are they very unique

2878
01:45:39,990 --> 01:45:38,480
individual things themselves

2879
01:45:42,470 --> 01:45:40,000
uh i think that they're two totally

2880
01:45:46,790 --> 01:45:42,480
different things uh you know because for

2881
01:45:49,109 --> 01:45:46,800
me when i was remote viewing it was uh

2882
01:45:51,030 --> 01:45:49,119
more so like i wanted to remote view in

2883
01:45:54,470 --> 01:45:51,040
that moment i wanted to see what was

2884
01:45:57,350 --> 01:45:54,480
there right now this moment right now

2885
01:45:59,750 --> 01:45:57,360
as for premonitions i

2886
01:46:01,030 --> 01:45:59,760
actually opened the book with this story

2887
01:46:04,229 --> 01:46:01,040
um

2888
01:46:05,109 --> 01:46:04,239
it was actually it it's so weird uh as

2889
01:46:13,669 --> 01:46:05,119
i'm

2890
01:46:15,510 --> 01:46:13,679
of working through these experiences

2891
01:46:17,270 --> 01:46:15,520
and and there's some weird

2892
01:46:19,750 --> 01:46:17,280
synchronicities that are happening in my

2893
01:46:21,350 --> 01:46:19,760
life as well as i start to write about

2894
01:46:22,709 --> 01:46:21,360
the story

2895
01:46:25,350 --> 01:46:22,719
um

2896
01:46:26,790 --> 01:46:25,360
i'll never forget i i was i was at this

2897
01:46:29,270 --> 01:46:26,800
one point in the book and i was talking

2898
01:46:31,030 --> 01:46:29,280
about this specific mentor

2899
01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:31,040
nothing nobody knew i was writing the

2900
01:46:34,149 --> 01:46:32,320
story yet

2901
01:46:37,430 --> 01:46:34,159
and

2902
01:46:39,350 --> 01:46:37,440
legitimately i wrote her name down

2903
01:46:41,109 --> 01:46:39,360
and she messaged me and i hadn't talked

2904
01:46:42,950 --> 01:46:41,119
to her for years

2905
01:46:45,350 --> 01:46:42,960
and there's a lot of that going on right

2906
01:46:47,270 --> 01:46:45,360
now as i'm writing it but but in the

2907
01:46:49,350 --> 01:46:47,280
beginning um

2908
01:46:51,510 --> 01:46:49,360
what i didn't understand and didn't know

2909
01:46:55,189 --> 01:46:51,520
that it was like a premonition

2910
01:46:59,590 --> 01:46:55,199
is i was i was in the car at my dad he

2911
01:47:02,870 --> 01:46:59,600
was driving this um two-door ford ranger

2912
01:47:05,350 --> 01:47:02,880
and we were going to spokane

2913
01:47:07,189 --> 01:47:05,360
and it was quite a drive and it was

2914
01:47:09,750 --> 01:47:07,199
summertime

2915
01:47:12,470 --> 01:47:09,760
and i was

2916
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:12,480
in the front seat

2917
01:47:15,030 --> 01:47:12,810
um

2918
01:47:18,550 --> 01:47:15,040
[Music]

2919
01:47:20,629 --> 01:47:18,560
and it hadn't gotten um

2920
01:47:23,189 --> 01:47:20,639
too hot yet we had the windows down a

2921
01:47:26,310 --> 01:47:23,199
little bit and it was still cold the air

2922
01:47:28,629 --> 01:47:26,320
conditioner didn't work in the truck

2923
01:47:29,830 --> 01:47:28,639
and i

2924
01:47:31,910 --> 01:47:29,840
yeah

2925
01:47:32,790 --> 01:47:31,920
well i ended up

2926
01:47:35,669 --> 01:47:32,800
right

2927
01:47:39,590 --> 01:47:37,750
there was this movie scene that played

2928
01:47:40,790 --> 01:47:39,600
in my head there was a movie called fly

2929
01:47:42,390 --> 01:47:40,800
away home

2930
01:47:44,950 --> 01:47:42,400
and in the beginning of this movie

2931
01:47:46,870 --> 01:47:44,960
there's this girl and you know her mom

2932
01:47:48,390 --> 01:47:46,880
and her getting a car wreck

2933
01:47:49,270 --> 01:47:48,400
and the mom dies

2934
01:47:50,470 --> 01:47:49,280
and

2935
01:47:51,830 --> 01:47:50,480
um

2936
01:47:55,109 --> 01:47:51,840
i had this

2937
01:47:57,990 --> 01:47:55,119
vision of this in my head

2938
01:48:01,510 --> 01:47:58,000
and i had just about fallen asleep i had

2939
01:48:02,870 --> 01:48:01,520
my pillow up against the window

2940
01:48:05,750 --> 01:48:02,880
you know and i was laying next to it

2941
01:48:08,149 --> 01:48:05,760
like this and all of a sudden i'm i'm

2942
01:48:10,470 --> 01:48:08,159
seeing this this car wreck in my head

2943
01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:10,480
and it's it's horrible and

2944
01:48:18,229 --> 01:48:14,800
as soon as i go to open my eyes

2945
01:48:20,790 --> 01:48:18,239
there is a very very loud

2946
01:48:22,870 --> 01:48:20,800
pop that sounded like a

2947
01:48:23,990 --> 01:48:22,880
an explosion

2948
01:48:27,590 --> 01:48:24,000
[Music]

2949
01:48:29,510 --> 01:48:27,600
what ended up happening is that the

2950
01:48:32,550 --> 01:48:29,520
tread came off of

2951
01:48:34,310 --> 01:48:32,560
one of the front tires and it came off

2952
01:48:35,590 --> 01:48:34,320
the off of it completely and we were

2953
01:48:38,070 --> 01:48:35,600
going you know

2954
01:48:39,830 --> 01:48:38,080
65 miles an hour

2955
01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:39,840
so

2956
01:48:44,950 --> 01:48:42,159
the next thing i see is my dad you know

2957
01:48:47,350 --> 01:48:44,960
he's gripping the wheel

2958
01:48:49,590 --> 01:48:47,360
and then everything goes black

2959
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:49,600
and i remember screaming

2960
01:48:51,669 --> 01:48:49,930
um

2961
01:48:53,830 --> 01:48:51,679
[Music]

2962
01:48:56,149 --> 01:48:53,840
and then i remember waking up

2963
01:48:58,709 --> 01:48:56,159
and so what had happened is the truck

2964
01:49:02,870 --> 01:48:58,719
had flipped over twice

2965
01:49:04,229 --> 01:49:02,880
and we landed we landed upright and the

2966
01:49:05,910 --> 01:49:04,239
um

2967
01:49:08,550 --> 01:49:05,920
top of the truck

2968
01:49:10,629 --> 01:49:08,560
had caved in like this and if it if it

2969
01:49:13,270 --> 01:49:10,639
wasn't for my dad um

2970
01:49:16,149 --> 01:49:13,280
throwing his body over mine

2971
01:49:21,430 --> 01:49:19,109
that part that caved in he probably

2972
01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:21,440
still he wouldn't be here

2973
01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:22,800
um

2974
01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:24,400
but the only thing that happened to me

2975
01:49:29,350 --> 01:49:27,040
is i got two uh stitches on the back of

2976
01:49:30,790 --> 01:49:29,360
my hand and that's it

2977
01:49:33,189 --> 01:49:30,800
out of all that

2978
01:49:37,510 --> 01:49:33,199
so um

2979
01:49:41,589 --> 01:49:40,149
scenes pop in my head right before

2980
01:49:43,430 --> 01:49:41,599
something is

2981
01:49:44,709 --> 01:49:43,440
going to happen you know so that that's

2982
01:49:47,270 --> 01:49:44,719
what i would say is the difference

2983
01:49:49,189 --> 01:49:47,280
between a premonition and a uh remote

2984
01:49:51,109 --> 01:49:49,199
viewing

2985
01:49:52,950 --> 01:49:51,119
but in that situation and maybe correct

2986
01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:52,960
me if i misunderstand that actually took

2987
01:49:56,629 --> 01:49:54,560
place right

2988
01:49:58,149 --> 01:49:56,639
yeah yeah that so that but you had a

2989
01:50:00,070 --> 01:49:58,159
feeling prior

2990
01:50:01,990 --> 01:50:00,080
to it right and then then it actually

2991
01:50:03,990 --> 01:50:02,000
did take place that's

2992
01:50:05,510 --> 01:50:04,000
right first of all um by the way thank

2993
01:50:07,270 --> 01:50:05,520
you so much to you ass for that you guys

2994
01:50:08,629 --> 01:50:07,280
are amazing so much for supporting the

2995
01:50:10,709 --> 01:50:08,639
show here tonight we really appreciate

2996
01:50:13,750 --> 01:50:10,719
it and we really appreciate lady anne

2997
01:50:15,669 --> 01:50:13,760
coming on and being a fantastic amazing

2998
01:50:18,390 --> 01:50:15,679
guest for me it's making my job so easy

2999
01:50:19,510 --> 01:50:18,400
tonight thank you sitting back asking

3000
01:50:22,310 --> 01:50:19,520
questions

3001
01:50:25,030 --> 01:50:22,320
um my goodness i i guess

3002
01:50:26,070 --> 01:50:25,040
another thing i'd love to ask you about

3003
01:50:28,870 --> 01:50:26,080
is

3004
01:50:29,990 --> 01:50:28,880
you've had some instances well let's hit

3005
01:50:31,830 --> 01:50:30,000
on this a little bit because i only got

3006
01:50:33,510 --> 01:50:31,840
about i guess about four believe it or

3007
01:50:35,669 --> 01:50:33,520
not we've only got about a half hour

3008
01:50:37,910 --> 01:50:35,679
left a little less actually before i

3009
01:50:39,589 --> 01:50:37,920
have time we're in a time warp right

3010
01:50:41,510 --> 01:50:39,599
that's what happened right

3011
01:50:43,430 --> 01:50:41,520
um so anybody else as well who has

3012
01:50:46,149 --> 01:50:43,440
questions in chat please get them in um

3013
01:50:48,310 --> 01:50:46,159
because we will be wrapping up soon for

3014
01:50:49,830 --> 01:50:48,320
sor and i will find out who lynn has on

3015
01:50:51,350 --> 01:50:49,840
tonight here in a minute for you guys

3016
01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:51,360
but i'd love to hit on the idea of

3017
01:50:55,030 --> 01:50:53,440
something that i've really been coming

3018
01:50:56,470 --> 01:50:55,040
into as of late and i think that

3019
01:50:58,229 --> 01:50:56,480
everyone's done it in their own way

3020
01:51:00,950 --> 01:50:58,239
maybe just had different terminology for

3021
01:51:02,629 --> 01:51:00,960
it but the idea of manifestation now i

3022
01:51:04,709 --> 01:51:02,639
know people hate this term right we're

3023
01:51:07,910 --> 01:51:04,719
gonna get all new agey with it but this

3024
01:51:10,870 --> 01:51:07,920
isn't new age this is something and my

3025
01:51:13,189 --> 01:51:10,880
very humble uneducated opinion on it

3026
01:51:15,990 --> 01:51:13,199
that is very ancient knowledge that has

3027
01:51:17,990 --> 01:51:16,000
existed for forever and we've just lost

3028
01:51:21,750 --> 01:51:18,000
touch with it but i'd love to hear your

3029
01:51:25,109 --> 01:51:21,760
thoughts on the idea of manifestation

3030
01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:25,119
so i i believe in manifestation like you

3031
01:51:30,070 --> 01:51:28,639
wouldn't believe because um

3032
01:51:31,990 --> 01:51:30,080
so

3033
01:51:33,350 --> 01:51:32,000
okay

3034
01:51:36,870 --> 01:51:33,360
um

3035
01:51:39,109 --> 01:51:36,880
again it's a story it's a personal story

3036
01:51:41,350 --> 01:51:39,119
um

3037
01:51:43,350 --> 01:51:41,360
the best so

3038
01:51:44,550 --> 01:51:43,360
so i i was um

3039
01:51:47,189 --> 01:51:44,560
[Music]

3040
01:51:50,390 --> 01:51:47,199
i was in a marriage for for 12 years it

3041
01:51:53,669 --> 01:51:50,400
was really rough it was um

3042
01:51:56,950 --> 01:51:53,679
you know emotionally and and spiritually

3043
01:51:59,830 --> 01:51:56,960
uh verbally abusive and

3044
01:52:01,669 --> 01:51:59,840
at that point at the end i really i

3045
01:52:02,950 --> 01:52:01,679
didn't have anything i didn't know what

3046
01:52:05,350 --> 01:52:02,960
i was going to do

3047
01:52:09,270 --> 01:52:05,360
i didn't know where i was going to go

3048
01:52:10,709 --> 01:52:09,280
and i was i was watching peaky blinders

3049
01:52:12,470 --> 01:52:10,719
actually and

3050
01:52:14,310 --> 01:52:12,480
there was this point in the movie where

3051
01:52:16,790 --> 01:52:14,320
he was talking about how you know they'd

3052
01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:16,800
get their their stipends and you know

3053
01:52:20,550 --> 01:52:19,199
he'd buy the lard and the flour and

3054
01:52:22,870 --> 01:52:20,560
everything like that

3055
01:52:25,589 --> 01:52:22,880
and one day he was like no you know he

3056
01:52:28,790 --> 01:52:25,599
buys a top hat and a coconut

3057
01:52:31,910 --> 01:52:28,800
and he's like we deserve better my mom

3058
01:52:33,910 --> 01:52:31,920
and i deserve better and at that moment

3059
01:52:36,149 --> 01:52:33,920
he was like i'm gonna do this

3060
01:52:37,669 --> 01:52:36,159
and then you know they've not to spoil

3061
01:52:39,189 --> 01:52:37,679
the show or anything but they've worked

3062
01:52:41,669 --> 01:52:39,199
themselves up

3063
01:52:44,950 --> 01:52:41,679
uh in life so

3064
01:52:46,390 --> 01:52:44,960
i took that and i was like

3065
01:52:49,430 --> 01:52:46,400
i'm just gonna do it

3066
01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:49,440
i i can do this and and i know what i

3067
01:52:53,589 --> 01:52:52,080
want for myself and my children

3068
01:52:54,870 --> 01:52:53,599
even though i have nothing right now

3069
01:52:57,189 --> 01:52:54,880
like i didn't have a car i didn't have a

3070
01:52:59,350 --> 01:52:57,199
penny to my name and i was like i'm i'm

3071
01:53:02,470 --> 01:52:59,360
doing this and i and i just

3072
01:53:05,350 --> 01:53:02,480
i i laughed and called out um

3073
01:53:08,390 --> 01:53:05,360
universe juice that's what i call it

3074
01:53:12,629 --> 01:53:08,400
so i was like universe juice let's go

3075
01:53:14,550 --> 01:53:12,639
and i ended up uh i got a car and i

3076
01:53:16,470 --> 01:53:14,560
ended up being able because at that time

3077
01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:16,480
too i was like gosh how am i

3078
01:53:24,310 --> 01:53:20,320
you know um i need a job and i ended up

3079
01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:24,320
uh i was volunteering at this dental uh

3080
01:53:27,109 --> 01:53:25,440
place

3081
01:53:27,910 --> 01:53:27,119
and

3082
01:53:43,669 --> 01:53:27,920
i

3083
01:53:45,830 --> 01:53:43,679
and then doc looks at me and goes well

3084
01:53:48,149 --> 01:53:45,840
you're up and i'm like

3085
01:53:50,550 --> 01:53:48,159
i'm up for what and he's like you're the

3086
01:53:53,270 --> 01:53:50,560
new assistant and i'm just like oh my

3087
01:53:56,470 --> 01:53:53,280
gosh and i'm telling you trial by fire

3088
01:54:00,870 --> 01:53:59,350
full full teeth removal 2017

3089
01:54:03,030 --> 01:54:00,880
plus tour ride

3090
01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:03,040
yeah it was it was

3091
01:54:09,189 --> 01:54:06,880
crazy so then as i'm working with my

3092
01:54:11,510 --> 01:54:09,199
best friend at this dental place it's

3093
01:54:13,830 --> 01:54:11,520
just her and myself and the doc

3094
01:54:16,390 --> 01:54:13,840
and i'm like man i really wish that we

3095
01:54:17,830 --> 01:54:16,400
could like carpool together and i wish

3096
01:54:18,870 --> 01:54:17,840
that our kids could go to the same

3097
01:54:21,189 --> 01:54:18,880
sitter

3098
01:54:23,189 --> 01:54:21,199
and i was like you know and i've always

3099
01:54:25,350 --> 01:54:23,199
wanted to move back home to my to the

3100
01:54:26,390 --> 01:54:25,360
small town that i came from

3101
01:54:29,109 --> 01:54:26,400
and

3102
01:54:32,950 --> 01:54:29,119
know what

3103
01:54:34,550 --> 01:54:32,960
universe juice and i get on craigslist

3104
01:54:36,629 --> 01:54:34,560
and i'm telling you

3105
01:54:39,350 --> 01:54:36,639
the place that i'm living now

3106
01:54:41,990 --> 01:54:39,360
it was on the front page of craigslist i

3107
01:54:43,589 --> 01:54:42,000
had it in less than 24 hours there is

3108
01:54:44,709 --> 01:54:43,599
only one house

3109
01:54:46,870 --> 01:54:44,719
in between

3110
01:54:50,870 --> 01:54:46,880
my friend and i only one house and it's

3111
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:50,880
back in my town that i grew up in so

3112
01:54:57,830 --> 01:54:54,000
and and i've you know the thing is is

3113
01:55:00,470 --> 01:54:57,840
we are magnets everything that you

3114
01:55:04,950 --> 01:55:00,480
feel inside everything that you because

3115
01:55:07,109 --> 01:55:04,960
okay unpopular opinion but whatever

3116
01:55:08,950 --> 01:55:07,119
we control our emotions

3117
01:55:11,350 --> 01:55:08,960
we are in control of that and what we

3118
01:55:12,149 --> 01:55:11,360
choose to feel is also what we draw to

3119
01:55:14,149 --> 01:55:12,159
us

3120
01:55:15,750 --> 01:55:14,159
so if you sit there and you're thinking

3121
01:55:17,430 --> 01:55:15,760
positive and you're thanking the

3122
01:55:19,030 --> 01:55:17,440
universe not only for the gifts that you

3123
01:55:20,550 --> 01:55:19,040
actually have right now but the gifts

3124
01:55:22,229 --> 01:55:20,560
that are actually going to be coming to

3125
01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:22,239
you because there are gifts coming to

3126
01:55:26,149 --> 01:55:23,440
you you just

3127
01:55:27,589 --> 01:55:26,159
you know be positive and know that

3128
01:55:30,950 --> 01:55:27,599
and then all of a sudden you see your

3129
01:55:32,470 --> 01:55:30,960
entire world begin to change and you are

3130
01:55:35,109 --> 01:55:32,480
being gifted these things these things

3131
01:55:35,990 --> 01:55:35,119
that you want are coming to you i mean

3132
01:55:38,470 --> 01:55:36,000
now

3133
01:55:40,709 --> 01:55:38,480
again like i never thought i'd travel

3134
01:55:43,589 --> 01:55:40,719
i never thought that i'd get on a plane

3135
01:55:44,709 --> 01:55:43,599
now i've been to arkansas to colorado to

3136
01:55:45,669 --> 01:55:44,719
ohio

3137
01:55:46,870 --> 01:55:45,679
um

3138
01:55:48,470 --> 01:55:46,880
you know i never like one of the

3139
01:55:51,430 --> 01:55:48,480
smallest things that i always wanted to

3140
01:55:54,149 --> 01:55:51,440
see was a firefly i know it sounds silly

3141
01:55:55,830 --> 01:55:54,159
but i mean it was a dream that i had

3142
01:55:58,310 --> 01:55:55,840
forever because i thought that these

3143
01:56:00,870 --> 01:55:58,320
little i mean i know it's a bug but

3144
01:56:02,870 --> 01:56:00,880
it's it's like this little piece of real

3145
01:56:05,510 --> 01:56:02,880
magic in the world i never thought that

3146
01:56:07,510 --> 01:56:05,520
i'd see one i got to see a whole field

3147
01:56:10,149 --> 01:56:07,520
of them in august

3148
01:56:12,550 --> 01:56:10,159
you know and then i had a

3149
01:56:15,669 --> 01:56:12,560
really crazy sasquatch experience the

3150
01:56:17,830 --> 01:56:15,679
next day but really well let's let's

3151
01:56:19,109 --> 01:56:17,840
first let's wrap up here we got about 20

3152
01:56:20,709 --> 01:56:19,119
minutes let's wrap up with the

3153
01:56:22,390 --> 01:56:20,719
manifestation stuff which is first of

3154
01:56:23,910 --> 01:56:22,400
all by the way thank you spooky morales

3155
01:56:25,990 --> 01:56:23,920
you guys have been amazing putting

3156
01:56:27,589 --> 01:56:26,000
gasoline and old blue here so we can

3157
01:56:28,870 --> 01:56:27,599
travel these cosmos each and every

3158
01:56:31,109 --> 01:56:28,880
weekend for you guys and share these

3159
01:56:33,030 --> 01:56:31,119
amazing stories um i really really

3160
01:56:34,310 --> 01:56:33,040
appreciate you guys supporting the show

3161
01:56:37,030 --> 01:56:34,320
um and to those that have popped into

3162
01:56:38,310 --> 01:56:37,040
the chat snakes on a ufo

3163
01:56:40,390 --> 01:56:38,320
thank you so much for hanging out with

3164
01:56:41,350 --> 01:56:40,400
us and oracles and beyond thank you

3165
01:56:43,350 --> 01:56:41,360
welcome

3166
01:56:44,629 --> 01:56:43,360
so really quick though

3167
01:56:46,790 --> 01:56:44,639
let's let's finish up with the

3168
01:56:48,790 --> 01:56:46,800
manifestation stuff here

3169
01:56:51,430 --> 01:56:48,800
do you feel that this is something that

3170
01:56:53,910 --> 01:56:51,440
anyone can do and are they tying into

3171
01:56:56,149 --> 01:56:53,920
some sort of ancient

3172
01:56:57,669 --> 01:56:56,159
uh forbidden unknown knowledge or is

3173
01:56:58,709 --> 01:56:57,679
this just something that really anybody

3174
01:57:01,990 --> 01:56:58,719
can do

3175
01:57:04,870 --> 01:57:02,000
if they focus on their intentions

3176
01:57:06,629 --> 01:57:04,880
we are all capable of it it's just a

3177
01:57:08,830 --> 01:57:06,639
matter of choosing it it's a matter of

3178
01:57:11,350 --> 01:57:08,840
mind frame in my

3179
01:57:13,350 --> 01:57:11,360
opinion yeah

3180
01:57:15,109 --> 01:57:13,360
hey by the way with the fireflies uh

3181
01:57:17,669 --> 01:57:15,119
spaced already says i was blown away the

3182
01:57:19,830 --> 01:57:17,679
first time i saw a firefly i was 34 the

3183
01:57:22,709 --> 01:57:19,840
first time i saw them

3184
01:57:24,709 --> 01:57:22,719
yeah yeah full of them 34.

3185
01:57:27,510 --> 01:57:24,719
someone uh says nah they're little

3186
01:57:28,470 --> 01:57:27,520
fairies you might be honest oh they oh

3187
01:57:29,510 --> 01:57:28,480
yeah

3188
01:57:31,910 --> 01:57:29,520
mm-hmm

3189
01:57:33,589 --> 01:57:31,920
uh but let's move into this uh

3190
01:57:35,030 --> 01:57:33,599
so and this is funny the guitar slinger

3191
01:57:37,430 --> 01:57:35,040
is bringing us up as far as the uh the

3192
01:57:39,030 --> 01:57:37,440
sasquatch uh let's let's move into that

3193
01:57:40,390 --> 01:57:39,040
uh with your

3194
01:57:42,310 --> 01:57:40,400
brief encounter what you might have had

3195
01:57:43,910 --> 01:57:42,320
there you guys are so amazing eric

3196
01:57:45,910 --> 01:57:43,920
arkley thank you so much don't believe

3197
01:57:47,750 --> 01:57:45,920
i've ever seen in the chat before thank

3198
01:57:49,350 --> 01:57:47,760
you for supporting the show so much we

3199
01:57:51,910 --> 01:57:49,360
really appreciate it guys

3200
01:57:55,030 --> 01:57:51,920
um but what what took place here so you

3201
01:57:57,189 --> 01:57:55,040
go to this this magical field you see

3202
01:57:59,270 --> 01:57:57,199
all the fireflies you could ever want

3203
01:58:02,390 --> 01:57:59,280
and you're just dancing under the

3204
01:58:04,149 --> 01:58:02,400
moonlight i know i see it i don't mean

3205
01:58:06,149 --> 01:58:04,159
mine takes me too far away but that's

3206
01:58:08,149 --> 01:58:06,159
what i see

3207
01:58:09,990 --> 01:58:08,159
well so with the carriage bringing you

3208
01:58:12,870 --> 01:58:10,000
down right

3209
01:58:15,990 --> 01:58:12,880
the lantern the bardo

3210
01:58:19,030 --> 01:58:16,000
no so like i'll try not to keep it too

3211
01:58:23,510 --> 01:58:19,040
long um but pretty much

3212
01:58:25,510 --> 01:58:23,520
i we were doing a ghost investigation in

3213
01:58:28,470 --> 01:58:25,520
one place

3214
01:58:31,430 --> 01:58:28,480
there seemed to be a lot of information

3215
01:58:33,109 --> 01:58:31,440
coming through via the estus method

3216
01:58:35,910 --> 01:58:33,119
now the estus method is where you've got

3217
01:58:38,229 --> 01:58:35,920
your sb7 which is the spirit box that

3218
01:58:40,870 --> 01:58:38,239
you know goes through the radio stations

3219
01:58:43,109 --> 01:58:40,880
at a fast rate and there will be words

3220
01:58:45,270 --> 01:58:43,119
that will come through you have somebody

3221
01:58:46,950 --> 01:58:45,280
have their headphones on

3222
01:58:48,390 --> 01:58:46,960
their noise canceling headphones they're

3223
01:58:50,790 --> 01:58:48,400
blindfolded

3224
01:58:54,709 --> 01:58:50,800
and they're just shouting out what they

3225
01:58:57,270 --> 01:58:54,719
hear on the spirit box and then the room

3226
01:58:59,109 --> 01:58:57,280
yeah can ask questions well

3227
01:59:01,510 --> 01:58:59,119
so

3228
01:59:03,189 --> 01:59:01,520
a lot of stuff was coming through about

3229
01:59:04,390 --> 01:59:03,199
the uh

3230
01:59:10,229 --> 01:59:04,400
the land

3231
01:59:12,709 --> 01:59:10,239
so i had the

3232
01:59:14,830 --> 01:59:12,719
great idea that we should continue this

3233
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:14,840
ghost investigation in the

3234
01:59:20,149 --> 01:59:17,920
woods and

3235
01:59:21,669 --> 01:59:20,159
so we we go

3236
01:59:24,229 --> 01:59:21,679
now

3237
01:59:26,390 --> 01:59:24,239
so so we go in on and we're writing this

3238
01:59:28,310 --> 01:59:26,400
side by side you know so it's it's me

3239
01:59:30,790 --> 01:59:28,320
and one other person in the front and

3240
01:59:33,589 --> 01:59:30,800
we've got one other person in the back

3241
01:59:35,350 --> 01:59:33,599
and so we go in we're at the mouth of

3242
01:59:36,629 --> 01:59:35,360
the woods we park the side by side and

3243
01:59:39,589 --> 01:59:36,639
we get out

3244
01:59:40,950 --> 01:59:39,599
we're walking in with the equipment and

3245
01:59:42,310 --> 01:59:40,960
i'm asked

3246
01:59:44,070 --> 01:59:42,320
how does it feel

3247
01:59:45,189 --> 01:59:44,080
because i know that i'm i'm sensitive

3248
01:59:47,589 --> 01:59:45,199
and i was like

3249
01:59:49,270 --> 01:59:47,599
oh it feels fine

3250
01:59:51,189 --> 01:59:49,280
not noticing

3251
01:59:53,990 --> 01:59:51,199
that it was silent

3252
01:59:57,030 --> 01:59:54,000
because here in our woods in oregon it

3253
01:59:59,589 --> 01:59:57,040
can be very very quiet but holy toledo

3254
02:00:02,070 --> 01:59:59,599
over there it's like an orchestra i've

3255
02:00:04,229 --> 02:00:02,080
never heard it that way i mean it's it's

3256
02:00:06,550 --> 02:00:04,239
incredible the sound outside

3257
02:00:09,669 --> 02:00:06,560
and of course because that's not my norm

3258
02:00:13,030 --> 02:00:09,679
i didn't realize that it was so quiet

3259
02:00:14,149 --> 02:00:13,040
so we set up everything and i'm sitting

3260
02:00:16,790 --> 02:00:14,159
there

3261
02:00:22,149 --> 02:00:19,270
behind me to the right

3262
02:00:24,790 --> 02:00:22,159
i can hear what sounds like to like a

3263
02:00:26,950 --> 02:00:24,800
bipedal something walking

3264
02:00:29,510 --> 02:00:26,960
i know that this is not a rabbit this is

3265
02:00:32,149 --> 02:00:29,520
not a deer this is not a bird this is

3266
02:00:33,589 --> 02:00:32,159
something bipedal and it is walking and

3267
02:00:35,990 --> 02:00:33,599
i'm like

3268
02:00:37,350 --> 02:00:36,000
we're all accounted for

3269
02:00:39,030 --> 02:00:37,360
but i don't want to be

3270
02:00:40,629 --> 02:00:39,040
i don't want to be the wiener so i don't

3271
02:00:42,870 --> 02:00:40,639
want to say anything

3272
02:00:47,189 --> 02:00:42,880
and so i'm just sitting there

3273
02:00:48,709 --> 02:00:47,199
and then i swear i hear this like

3274
02:00:52,070 --> 02:00:48,719
this low

3275
02:00:53,750 --> 02:00:52,080
guttural growl and it's it just and now

3276
02:00:55,589 --> 02:00:53,760
i'm sitting there going

3277
02:00:57,990 --> 02:00:55,599
you are hearing things this is your

3278
02:01:00,070 --> 02:00:58,000
imagination this is you know you're

3279
02:01:02,070 --> 02:01:00,080
you're creative and this is what you're

3280
02:01:03,830 --> 02:01:02,080
doing because you're afraid

3281
02:01:05,990 --> 02:01:03,840
so i decide you know what i'm going to

3282
02:01:07,669 --> 02:01:06,000
stand up and i'm going to turn around

3283
02:01:09,830 --> 02:01:07,679
and i'm going to face

3284
02:01:11,589 --> 02:01:09,840
you know what's behind me

3285
02:01:14,229 --> 02:01:11,599
and then i'm not gonna be afraid anymore

3286
02:01:16,390 --> 02:01:14,239
because this isn't gonna be behind me

3287
02:01:19,350 --> 02:01:16,400
so i'm standing there and i'm like oh

3288
02:01:21,589 --> 02:01:19,360
even better i'm gonna grab a flashlight

3289
02:01:23,990 --> 02:01:21,599
so i get my flashlight

3290
02:01:26,229 --> 02:01:24,000
and i'm like

3291
02:01:27,430 --> 02:01:26,239
you know i'm looking around

3292
02:01:31,350 --> 02:01:27,440
and

3293
02:01:36,390 --> 02:01:34,070
i thought i saw

3294
02:01:38,629 --> 02:01:36,400
head and shoulders and this body and

3295
02:01:41,350 --> 02:01:38,639
this arm around the tree

3296
02:01:43,109 --> 02:01:41,360
and i'm like

3297
02:01:45,589 --> 02:01:43,119
i need my glasses this because i don't

3298
02:01:47,510 --> 02:01:45,599
have glasses i'm not this is i'm seeing

3299
02:01:49,270 --> 02:01:47,520
things i should you know

3300
02:01:52,950 --> 02:01:49,280
totally blaming it on me just being a

3301
02:01:54,950 --> 02:01:52,960
total wiener and that's just what it is

3302
02:01:56,310 --> 02:01:54,960
so i take the light away

3303
02:01:57,430 --> 02:01:56,320
and the people are sitting there and

3304
02:02:01,109 --> 02:01:57,440
they're like

3305
02:02:05,830 --> 02:02:03,030
just you know quiet

3306
02:02:07,990 --> 02:02:05,840
and then all of a sudden there is this

3307
02:02:10,390 --> 02:02:08,000
loud just bang

3308
02:02:13,030 --> 02:02:10,400
on the side of the side by side like an

3309
02:02:13,990 --> 02:02:13,040
open-handed slap on the side of this

3310
02:02:16,870 --> 02:02:14,000
thing

3311
02:02:19,589 --> 02:02:16,880
and of course now they end up laughing

3312
02:02:22,310 --> 02:02:19,599
because for them they're in paranormal

3313
02:02:23,750 --> 02:02:22,320
investigator mode and when you're in

3314
02:02:25,830 --> 02:02:23,760
that mode

3315
02:02:27,830 --> 02:02:25,840
there is a lot of sounds especially when

3316
02:02:29,669 --> 02:02:27,840
you're in the old buildings and stuff

3317
02:02:31,430 --> 02:02:29,679
like that and and with spirits you know

3318
02:02:34,149 --> 02:02:31,440
it sounds normal

3319
02:02:37,270 --> 02:02:34,159
and i'm just sitting there like

3320
02:02:39,270 --> 02:02:37,280
this isn't okay and and and that like i

3321
02:02:41,030 --> 02:02:39,280
i legitimately was thinking about

3322
02:02:42,149 --> 02:02:41,040
sasquatch i thought that that's what i

3323
02:02:43,510 --> 02:02:42,159
saw

3324
02:02:46,550 --> 02:02:43,520
and i'm going

3325
02:02:48,229 --> 02:02:46,560
you know it's just your imagination away

3326
02:02:50,390 --> 02:02:48,239
so again they're like are you okay and

3327
02:02:51,990 --> 02:02:50,400
i'm like

3328
02:02:52,709 --> 02:02:52,000
no no no i want to go to the field can

3329
02:02:54,149 --> 02:02:52,719
we go

3330
02:02:56,550 --> 02:02:54,159
please i want to go out right now you

3331
02:02:58,790 --> 02:02:56,560
know and i'm just like and so

3332
02:03:01,910 --> 02:02:58,800
we get in the side by side and we go out

3333
02:03:03,350 --> 02:03:01,920
to the field and everything

3334
02:03:06,709 --> 02:03:03,360
i'm like okay

3335
02:03:08,709 --> 02:03:06,719
this is good i'm good this is great this

3336
02:03:09,910 --> 02:03:08,719
is where i want to be

3337
02:03:12,629 --> 02:03:09,920
and so

3338
02:03:15,830 --> 02:03:12,639
we get out again we put out the blankets

3339
02:03:20,390 --> 02:03:18,310
i didn't know she was gonna do this

3340
02:03:22,310 --> 02:03:20,400
and she pulls out her phone

3341
02:03:24,950 --> 02:03:22,320
she's holding her phone up

3342
02:03:27,189 --> 02:03:24,960
and she played the recording you can

3343
02:03:29,990 --> 02:03:27,199
find it on youtube if you google the

3344
02:03:31,510 --> 02:03:30,000
ohio howell this was a recording done in

3345
02:03:33,669 --> 02:03:31,520
1994

3346
02:03:37,669 --> 02:03:33,679
supposedly of a sasquatch

3347
02:03:45,510 --> 02:03:42,870
the same howl the same sound comes just

3348
02:03:47,990 --> 02:03:45,520
bellowing out of the woods

3349
02:03:50,870 --> 02:03:48,000
and i'm standing there

3350
02:03:53,750 --> 02:03:50,880
and my whole world is crumbling around

3351
02:03:56,870 --> 02:03:53,760
me because i'm going okay okay okay

3352
02:03:59,430 --> 02:03:56,880
i've experienced ghosts and and possibly

3353
02:04:01,510 --> 02:03:59,440
aliens and and i know that people have

3354
02:04:03,510 --> 02:04:01,520
experienced sasquatch and i'm not

3355
02:04:05,510 --> 02:04:03,520
discounting any of them but this is not

3356
02:04:08,229 --> 02:04:05,520
in my reality this is not something that

3357
02:04:10,950 --> 02:04:08,239
i'm going to experience but

3358
02:04:12,950 --> 02:04:10,960
here it is and and it's yelling at me

3359
02:04:14,950 --> 02:04:12,960
and then all of a sudden

3360
02:04:17,430 --> 02:04:14,960
it sounds like it takes this tree out of

3361
02:04:19,350 --> 02:04:17,440
the ground and it slaps it against this

3362
02:04:21,990 --> 02:04:19,360
other tree i mean just this this

3363
02:04:23,990 --> 02:04:22,000
cracking crashing sound and i'm just

3364
02:04:26,310 --> 02:04:24,000
like at this point we're back in the

3365
02:04:29,189 --> 02:04:26,320
side by side and i'm like go go go like

3366
02:04:30,790 --> 02:04:29,199
i'm done i'm out and all the while so we

3367
02:04:31,910 --> 02:04:30,800
had somebody in the back and she's got

3368
02:04:33,350 --> 02:04:31,920
the night vision camera and she's

3369
02:04:35,589 --> 02:04:33,360
scanning the wood line to see if

3370
02:04:37,430 --> 02:04:35,599
anything's coming out after us and all i

3371
02:04:41,030 --> 02:04:37,440
can replay in my head is the different

3372
02:04:43,189 --> 02:04:41,040
stories about like bluff charging or

3373
02:04:45,990 --> 02:04:43,199
you know flanking and i'm just like

3374
02:04:48,069 --> 02:04:46,000
we're done like i'm gonna die

3375
02:04:49,430 --> 02:04:48,079
you know and so

3376
02:04:50,149 --> 02:04:49,440
we get back

3377
02:04:51,589 --> 02:04:50,159
to

3378
02:04:53,270 --> 02:04:51,599
the base camp

3379
02:04:58,069 --> 02:04:53,280
and

3380
02:04:59,990 --> 02:04:58,079
i'm feeling better

3381
02:05:01,910 --> 02:05:00,000
um and then

3382
02:05:03,830 --> 02:05:01,920
we all kind of regroup and i was like

3383
02:05:05,350 --> 02:05:03,840
you know

3384
02:05:06,790 --> 02:05:05,360
there are two camps when it comes to

3385
02:05:08,470 --> 02:05:06,800
sasquatch

3386
02:05:10,069 --> 02:05:08,480
there is your camp that believes that it

3387
02:05:10,870 --> 02:05:10,079
is a regular

3388
02:05:12,069 --> 02:05:10,880
um

3389
02:05:15,750 --> 02:05:12,079
mammal

3390
02:05:18,709 --> 02:05:15,760
humanoid or what is it neanderthal

3391
02:05:20,149 --> 02:05:18,719
human thingy right i'm really i i

3392
02:05:21,750 --> 02:05:20,159
haven't delved into the world of

3393
02:05:24,629 --> 02:05:21,760
sasquatch i don't know the terminology

3394
02:05:26,149 --> 02:05:24,639
because i didn't want i didn't want to

3395
02:05:28,149 --> 02:05:26,159
and so

3396
02:05:29,270 --> 02:05:28,159
and then the other half is believing

3397
02:05:31,990 --> 02:05:29,280
that it's a

3398
02:05:35,910 --> 02:05:32,000
spiritual being that can communicate and

3399
02:05:40,550 --> 02:05:38,069
let's put it to the test

3400
02:05:42,229 --> 02:05:40,560
and use the estes method to see if we

3401
02:05:44,709 --> 02:05:42,239
can communicate with these things as

3402
02:05:46,229 --> 02:05:44,719
crazy as it sounds

3403
02:05:47,510 --> 02:05:46,239
i've never heard of anybody else doing

3404
02:05:50,390 --> 02:05:47,520
it

3405
02:05:52,629 --> 02:05:50,400
so boom we put somebody on the esses

3406
02:05:54,629 --> 02:05:52,639
method

3407
02:05:56,470 --> 02:05:54,639
and

3408
02:05:59,030 --> 02:05:56,480
the person on the esses method you know

3409
02:06:00,870 --> 02:05:59,040
they can't see or hear us at all

3410
02:06:02,709 --> 02:06:00,880
and they're like

3411
02:06:04,069 --> 02:06:02,719
um

3412
02:06:05,510 --> 02:06:04,079
look

3413
02:06:08,310 --> 02:06:05,520
see

3414
02:06:10,069 --> 02:06:08,320
and i'm looking on the ridge

3415
02:06:13,270 --> 02:06:10,079
and there's a tree branch in the

3416
02:06:17,830 --> 02:06:15,189
and you can see

3417
02:06:20,229 --> 02:06:17,840
that same figure that i saw when we were

3418
02:06:23,510 --> 02:06:20,239
in the woods the head and the shoulder

3419
02:06:25,189 --> 02:06:23,520
and you can see it swaying

3420
02:06:27,270 --> 02:06:25,199
like this

3421
02:06:31,350 --> 02:06:27,280
wow and then the person on the estus

3422
02:06:32,310 --> 02:06:31,360
method says you see me

3423
02:06:33,830 --> 02:06:32,320
and

3424
02:06:35,270 --> 02:06:33,840
to be clear for people that i mean you

3425
02:06:36,390 --> 02:06:35,280
already explain it but they they can't

3426
02:06:37,589 --> 02:06:36,400
see anything right they're weird

3427
02:06:40,310 --> 02:06:37,599
essentially in this helmet or they're

3428
02:06:41,830 --> 02:06:40,320
blindfolded right okay blindfolded and

3429
02:06:45,430 --> 02:06:41,840
totally like this

3430
02:06:46,629 --> 02:06:45,440
you know just completely they can't

3431
02:06:48,629 --> 02:06:46,639
and then

3432
02:06:50,950 --> 02:06:48,639
there's somebody behind her so i'm

3433
02:06:53,189 --> 02:06:50,960
facing her i've got somebody next to me

3434
02:06:55,830 --> 02:06:53,199
and the person with me did see the thing

3435
02:06:57,990 --> 02:06:55,840
up on that on the ridge and then there's

3436
02:07:00,069 --> 02:06:58,000
one person behind her and like i said

3437
02:07:02,550 --> 02:07:00,079
she's facing me the person behind her

3438
02:07:04,790 --> 02:07:02,560
has a flashlight

3439
02:07:07,350 --> 02:07:04,800
and turns it on and faces it over in

3440
02:07:09,750 --> 02:07:07,360
that direction and then you hear her say

3441
02:07:13,350 --> 02:07:09,760
from the esses method right

3442
02:07:16,870 --> 02:07:14,390
and

3443
02:07:17,830 --> 02:07:16,880
so you know he he turned the flashlight

3444
02:07:20,629 --> 02:07:17,840
off

3445
02:07:25,430 --> 02:07:22,629
i i don't know

3446
02:07:27,189 --> 02:07:25,440
i don't know because

3447
02:07:29,109 --> 02:07:27,199
as i say how did you guys process this i

3448
02:07:30,550 --> 02:07:29,119
mean when there was someone else

3449
02:07:31,830 --> 02:07:30,560
witnessing this i'm assuming there was

3450
02:07:33,990 --> 02:07:31,840
probably one or two of you that

3451
02:07:35,830 --> 02:07:34,000
witnessed this beside yourself three of

3452
02:07:37,510 --> 02:07:35,840
us there there were four of us there

3453
02:07:40,229 --> 02:07:37,520
total one person was doing the esses

3454
02:07:41,189 --> 02:07:40,239
method three of us were experiencing

3455
02:07:43,189 --> 02:07:41,199
this

3456
02:07:45,109 --> 02:07:43,199
together

3457
02:07:47,189 --> 02:07:45,119
did this change your view at the time

3458
02:07:49,189 --> 02:07:47,199
world view on the possibility of bigfoot

3459
02:07:53,030 --> 02:07:49,199
or sasquatch

3460
02:07:55,669 --> 02:07:53,040
well what it made me think was

3461
02:07:57,350 --> 02:07:55,679
what if it's not sasquatch altogether

3462
02:08:00,870 --> 02:07:57,360
what if it's something else that can

3463
02:08:02,149 --> 02:08:00,880
take the form of sasquatch

3464
02:08:03,830 --> 02:08:02,159
and

3465
02:08:05,750 --> 02:08:03,840
this would also make sense why there's

3466
02:08:07,750 --> 02:08:05,760
two different camps because

3467
02:08:10,470 --> 02:08:07,760
maybe there is something that like maybe

3468
02:08:11,990 --> 02:08:10,480
it's both maybe there is the regular old

3469
02:08:14,229 --> 02:08:12,000
sasquatch

3470
02:08:16,229 --> 02:08:14,239
but something else that can mimic it and

3471
02:08:17,589 --> 02:08:16,239
take its shape

3472
02:08:19,350 --> 02:08:17,599
you know that's that's something else

3473
02:08:21,189 --> 02:08:19,360
that i mean granted

3474
02:08:23,030 --> 02:08:21,199
i haven't researched it and i'm not in

3475
02:08:26,229 --> 02:08:23,040
any kind of bigfoot community or

3476
02:08:28,470 --> 02:08:26,239
anything but i have not heard of that

3477
02:08:30,069 --> 02:08:28,480
thought about being

3478
02:08:31,350 --> 02:08:30,079
you know

3479
02:08:32,870 --> 02:08:31,360
both

3480
02:08:33,990 --> 02:08:32,880
right

3481
02:08:35,030 --> 02:08:34,000
yeah

3482
02:08:49,189 --> 02:08:35,040
i

3483
02:08:51,189 --> 02:08:49,199
from the paranormal chop shop

3484
02:08:51,910 --> 02:08:51,199
had some videos that he sent me that he

3485
02:08:53,430 --> 02:08:51,920
had

3486
02:08:54,790 --> 02:08:53,440
an experience and seen some stuff i'll

3487
02:08:57,030 --> 02:08:54,800
have to send it he's asking me to send

3488
02:08:59,350 --> 02:08:57,040
it to you so i'll make sure you do

3489
02:09:01,189 --> 02:08:59,360
because it's similar to and not exactly

3490
02:09:02,950 --> 02:09:01,199
what you went through but far as

3491
02:09:04,069 --> 02:09:02,960
i mean whatever he seen whatever the

3492
02:09:05,830 --> 02:09:04,079
video is and he shared it before with

3493
02:09:07,030 --> 02:09:05,840
the boys in the garage it's it's pretty

3494
02:09:09,030 --> 02:09:07,040
impressive

3495
02:09:10,870 --> 02:09:09,040
uh wow guitar is bringing up the idea

3496
02:09:12,550 --> 02:09:10,880
too that like you know maybe maybe it is

3497
02:09:13,910 --> 02:09:12,560
uh you know an

3498
02:09:16,470 --> 02:09:13,920
sw

3499
02:09:18,550 --> 02:09:16,480
we don't know um

3500
02:09:20,709 --> 02:09:18,560
zero cool i mean i don't know what part

3501
02:09:23,350 --> 02:09:20,719
of ohio you were in ohio right

3502
02:09:24,790 --> 02:09:23,360
i was i was you don't know

3503
02:09:28,310 --> 02:09:24,800
you don't know

3504
02:09:29,589 --> 02:09:28,320
uh oh man i tell you what too guys um

3505
02:09:31,109 --> 02:09:29,599
what i'd love to do is because we have

3506
02:09:32,550 --> 02:09:31,119
about ten minutes left here so before

3507
02:09:33,990 --> 02:09:32,560
any of you start to head out or leave i

3508
02:09:35,030 --> 02:09:34,000
want to thank each and every one i i got

3509
02:09:36,229 --> 02:09:35,040
to figure out how to do this better

3510
02:09:37,430 --> 02:09:36,239
there's got to be a list maybe i keep

3511
02:09:38,709 --> 02:09:37,440
track of it for anybody who's

3512
02:09:40,390 --> 02:09:38,719
contributed tonight and supported the

3513
02:09:41,430 --> 02:09:40,400
show we really from the bottom of hearts

3514
02:09:43,109 --> 02:09:41,440
thank you guys honestly you guys just

3515
02:09:44,870 --> 02:09:43,119
come in and hanging out and creating

3516
02:09:47,350 --> 02:09:44,880
this space for us to be able to interact

3517
02:09:49,109 --> 02:09:47,360
with one another and i truly believe

3518
02:09:50,310 --> 02:09:49,119
whatever people can make fun of me for

3519
02:09:51,589 --> 02:09:50,320
but the idea of the collective

3520
02:09:53,669 --> 02:09:51,599
consciousness putting the pieces

3521
02:09:55,510 --> 02:09:53,679
together i think it's a real thing and i

3522
02:09:57,750 --> 02:09:55,520
and i believe we're doing so much more

3523
02:09:58,950 --> 02:09:57,760
than we realized just by you being

3524
02:10:00,550 --> 02:09:58,960
amazing tonight and sharing these

3525
02:10:02,069 --> 02:10:00,560
stories and just being honest and open i

3526
02:10:04,310 --> 02:10:02,079
i don't know about you guys in the chat

3527
02:10:05,669 --> 02:10:04,320
but i could think for myself

3528
02:10:06,709 --> 02:10:05,679
hearing the emotion behind you telling

3529
02:10:07,830 --> 02:10:06,719
these stories this isn't something

3530
02:10:09,030 --> 02:10:07,840
you're just coming on to do for

3531
02:10:11,910 --> 02:10:09,040
attention this isn't something you're

3532
02:10:13,510 --> 02:10:11,920
doing for you know whatever to put your

3533
02:10:15,589 --> 02:10:13,520
name out there because let's be honest

3534
02:10:17,830 --> 02:10:15,599
in this community it can be very hard to

3535
02:10:19,430 --> 02:10:17,840
put yourself out there and to deal with

3536
02:10:21,990 --> 02:10:19,440
the repercussions of that because we all

3537
02:10:24,390 --> 02:10:22,000
have vast opinions and

3538
02:10:25,990 --> 02:10:24,400
that roam about um but really quick i

3539
02:10:27,510 --> 02:10:26,000
just let everybody know for links i told

3540
02:10:28,709 --> 02:10:27,520
you guys i would let you know

3541
02:10:30,390 --> 02:10:28,719
she'll be going on here in about 10

3542
02:10:31,830 --> 02:10:30,400
minutes actually it says tonight she's

3543
02:10:34,709 --> 02:10:31,840
got demon ghost and paranormal

3544
02:10:37,109 --> 02:10:34,719
investigator with carl johnson so carl

3545
02:10:38,950 --> 02:10:37,119
johnson tonight lynn wallington space

3546
02:10:41,510 --> 02:10:38,960
style radio she'll be going on about 10

3547
02:10:43,109 --> 02:10:41,520
minutes or so here but what i'd love to

3548
02:10:45,669 --> 02:10:43,119
do is really quick if anybody has any

3549
02:10:48,149 --> 02:10:45,679
last-minute questions for lady anne

3550
02:10:49,430 --> 02:10:48,159
please submit them let me know uh if

3551
02:10:52,229 --> 02:10:49,440
you'd like to ask them and then i the

3552
02:10:54,950 --> 02:10:52,239
last question i have for you lydian

3553
02:10:55,990 --> 02:10:54,960
would be uh if you'd like loved and

3554
02:10:57,990 --> 02:10:56,000
obviously we wouldn't be able to cover

3555
02:11:00,149 --> 02:10:58,000
it all in minutes but

3556
02:11:02,629 --> 02:11:00,159
the inspiration behind

3557
02:11:05,910 --> 02:11:02,639
uh kpl and n or oh my gosh i said it

3558
02:11:08,830 --> 02:11:05,920
wrong again it's k p l n right

3559
02:11:11,189 --> 02:11:08,840
k p and l think k

3560
02:11:13,030 --> 02:11:11,199
paranormal there you know that you gave

3561
02:11:13,830 --> 02:11:13,040
me something to think about

3562
02:11:15,430 --> 02:11:13,840
um

3563
02:11:16,870 --> 02:11:15,440
but where can people i know and i'll

3564
02:11:18,310 --> 02:11:16,880
share that again in the chat but again

3565
02:11:20,069 --> 02:11:18,320
i'd just love you to plug it for anybody

3566
02:11:21,830 --> 02:11:20,079
here at the end that's that's popping in

3567
02:11:23,030 --> 02:11:21,840
uh before everybody heads over to sor so

3568
02:11:24,790 --> 02:11:23,040
where can they find you and i'll pop it

3569
02:11:27,030 --> 02:11:24,800
up in the chat for them as well

3570
02:11:29,669 --> 02:11:27,040
okay so definitely check out it's

3571
02:11:32,310 --> 02:11:29,679
kpnl-db.com

3572
02:11:35,270 --> 02:11:32,320
that's the website for my uh it's a

3573
02:11:36,069 --> 02:11:35,280
paranormal network we play podcasts

3574
02:11:38,629 --> 02:11:36,079
after

3575
02:11:40,470 --> 02:11:38,639
5pm we carry spaced out radio uh when

3576
02:11:42,229 --> 02:11:40,480
dave is live we carry that over there

3577
02:11:44,310 --> 02:11:42,239
and we play music when we're not playing

3578
02:11:45,350 --> 02:11:44,320
podcasts um

3579
02:11:47,910 --> 02:11:45,360
it was

3580
02:11:50,069 --> 02:11:47,920
inspired because i love the community so

3581
02:11:51,990 --> 02:11:50,079
much and it was another way for me to

3582
02:11:53,510 --> 02:11:52,000
kind of be the cheerleader in the group

3583
02:11:56,629 --> 02:11:53,520
and be like all right you know here's

3584
02:11:58,310 --> 02:11:56,639
everybody that does you know everything

3585
02:12:01,430 --> 02:11:58,320
everybody that i have on there i really

3586
02:12:02,629 --> 02:12:01,440
believe does this with with true heart

3587
02:12:05,109 --> 02:12:02,639
and and

3588
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good intention and the right intention

3589
02:12:09,430 --> 02:12:06,400
and so that's

3590
02:12:11,430 --> 02:12:09,440
you know the the short of of how it came

3591
02:12:13,589 --> 02:12:11,440
to be um

3592
02:12:15,750 --> 02:12:13,599
and kpl is also on

3593
02:12:16,950 --> 02:12:15,760
gosh instagram twitter

3594
02:12:18,790 --> 02:12:16,960
facebook

3595
02:12:21,830 --> 02:12:18,800
under kpl radio

3596
02:12:23,910 --> 02:12:21,840
um then i have my podcast called the

3597
02:12:26,310 --> 02:12:23,920
caravan library of lore so you can

3598
02:12:28,950 --> 02:12:26,320
google the caravan library of lore you

3599
02:12:31,030 --> 02:12:28,960
can also find it under caravan of lore

3600
02:12:34,149 --> 02:12:31,040
and that as well is on facebook

3601
02:12:35,510 --> 02:12:34,159
instagram and twitter

3602
02:12:37,669 --> 02:12:35,520
yeah and i'll make sure guys by the way

3603
02:12:40,229 --> 02:12:37,679
if you are watching this back in podcast

3604
02:12:41,350 --> 02:12:40,239
format i will make sure i'm sending this

3605
02:12:42,950 --> 02:12:41,360
over to ben every time so you guys

3606
02:12:44,229 --> 02:12:42,960
scroll down in the show notes there the

3607
02:12:45,750 --> 02:12:44,239
links to everything that we've talked

3608
02:12:46,950 --> 02:12:45,760
about tonight where you can follow lady

3609
02:12:48,390 --> 02:12:46,960
anne where you can support her and all

3610
02:12:49,750 --> 02:12:48,400
the work that she is doing as well some

3611
02:12:51,750 --> 02:12:49,760
of the other fun things that she has

3612
02:12:53,030 --> 02:12:51,760
going on will be linked in there or if

3613
02:12:55,430 --> 02:12:53,040
you're watching tonight you can scroll

3614
02:12:56,550 --> 02:12:55,440
down and follow those links we'd love it

3615
02:12:57,510 --> 02:12:56,560
if you guys give us a thumbs up or

3616
02:12:58,790 --> 02:12:57,520
thumbs down that's up to you you're

3617
02:13:00,629 --> 02:12:58,800
helping us by the way with the algorithm

3618
02:13:03,510 --> 02:13:00,639
but thumbs up or preferred over the

3619
02:13:04,790 --> 02:13:03,520
thumbs down and one last thing too if

3620
02:13:06,629 --> 02:13:04,800
you guys want

3621
02:13:07,750 --> 02:13:06,639
you guys know you can pop over and

3622
02:13:09,189 --> 02:13:07,760
support

3623
02:13:10,589 --> 02:13:09,199
the ufo garage

3624
02:13:12,229 --> 02:13:10,599
at ufo

3625
02:13:14,149 --> 02:13:12,239
garagepodcast.com you guys can go and

3626
02:13:15,350 --> 02:13:14,159
get all kinds of fun t-shirts there

3627
02:13:16,629 --> 02:13:15,360
there's all kinds of fun stuff you can

3628
02:13:18,310 --> 02:13:16,639
do and support them so we really

3629
02:13:19,510 --> 02:13:18,320
appreciate ben and joe so much honestly

3630
02:13:20,870 --> 02:13:19,520
i don't think you two realize how much

3631
02:13:22,709 --> 02:13:20,880
you've done and what you're doing and

3632
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:22,719
like you've got the documentary that's

3633
02:13:26,229 --> 02:13:24,480
coming out there's just so much that i'm

3634
02:13:28,229 --> 02:13:26,239
i'm excited for them and it's been

3635
02:13:31,030 --> 02:13:28,239
amazing meeting all these people that i

3636
02:13:33,830 --> 02:13:31,040
did some i mean sorr i didn't even know

3637
02:13:36,069 --> 02:13:33,840
who sr was roughly six months ago i had

3638
02:13:37,510 --> 02:13:36,079
heard of them i knew dave scott because

3639
02:13:38,950 --> 02:13:37,520
of ben and joe but i didn't know about

3640
02:13:40,550 --> 02:13:38,960
the community and all this so it's been

3641
02:13:41,669 --> 02:13:40,560
great meeting everybody

3642
02:13:43,350 --> 02:13:41,679
um

3643
02:13:45,350 --> 02:13:43,360
one thing i'm going to do though is

3644
02:13:46,310 --> 02:13:45,360
unless i missed it guys if i've missed

3645
02:13:47,510 --> 02:13:46,320
that i apologize there's a couple

3646
02:13:48,870 --> 02:13:47,520
messages popped at the end doesn't look

3647
02:13:51,189 --> 02:13:48,880
like anybody submitted any big question

3648
02:13:52,550 --> 02:13:51,199
we have maybe put it up and uh put it up

3649
02:13:53,990 --> 02:13:52,560
in caps but yeah we thank you guys so

3650
02:13:55,830 --> 02:13:54,000
much everybody's saying they they've had

3651
02:13:57,830 --> 02:13:55,840
a great time tonight and i know i had a

3652
02:13:59,109 --> 02:13:57,840
great time what i'm to do though is i'm

3653
02:14:01,030 --> 02:13:59,119
going to take you backstage just really

3654
02:14:02,390 --> 02:14:01,040
quick once i end the broadcast don't hop

3655
02:14:03,510 --> 02:14:02,400
off because i have one another question

3656
02:14:05,990 --> 02:14:03,520
for you so

3657
02:14:08,629 --> 02:14:06,000
um if you got a second at least i'll do

3658
02:14:12,629 --> 02:14:08,639
that i do i do and thank you everybody

3659
02:14:14,470 --> 02:14:12,639
for tuning in it means so much thank you

3660
02:14:16,790 --> 02:14:14,480
yeah this has been great oh yeah and the

3661
02:14:18,550 --> 02:14:16,800
process of your book yeah make sure

3662
02:14:20,069 --> 02:14:18,560
whenever you get that updated if you get

3663
02:14:21,189 --> 02:14:20,079
it updated you know we'll send it we can

3664
02:14:22,149 --> 02:14:21,199
always add it back in the show notes

3665
02:14:24,149 --> 02:14:22,159
later for people who are listening

3666
02:14:26,629 --> 02:14:24,159
because for all we know guys it's the

3667
02:14:29,109 --> 02:14:26,639
year 2055 and someone went back and

3668
02:14:31,189 --> 02:14:29,119
listened to this episode we don't know

3669
02:14:33,510 --> 02:14:31,199
who knows who we're speaking to

3670
02:14:36,790 --> 02:14:33,520
agreed speaking of morales he says

3671
02:14:38,870 --> 02:14:36,800
ufo garage is going hard in 2022 i'm

3672
02:14:40,709 --> 02:14:38,880
just excited for the big get together

3673
02:14:42,709 --> 02:14:40,719
whenever that finally happens it's going

3674
02:14:43,669 --> 02:14:42,719
to be a good time so all right lady ann

3675
02:14:44,629 --> 02:14:43,679
i'm going to take you backstage real

3676
02:14:45,830 --> 02:14:44,639
quick i'm going to get everybody out of

3677
02:14:47,030 --> 02:14:45,840
here and let me know we have coming up

3678
02:14:49,669 --> 02:14:47,040
and then just hang out for me for just a

3679
02:14:51,270 --> 02:14:49,679
couple minutes okay

3680
02:14:54,629 --> 02:14:51,280
all right peace

3681
02:14:56,950 --> 02:14:54,639
alrighty guys well man tell you what

3682
02:14:58,550 --> 02:14:56,960
uh i feel so bad i felt i interrupted

3683
02:15:00,550 --> 02:14:58,560
her a couple times and i just like all

3684
02:15:02,149 --> 02:15:00,560
we needed to do was set her up like i

3685
02:15:03,109 --> 02:15:02,159
could have submitted a few questions i

3686
02:15:05,189 --> 02:15:03,119
had in the beginning but like all right

3687
02:15:07,430 --> 02:15:05,199
you just tell these stories because this

3688
02:15:09,830 --> 02:15:07,440
is amazing it was a great time you guys

3689
02:15:11,430 --> 02:15:09,840
were also amazing thank you for hanging

3690
02:15:12,470 --> 02:15:11,440
out with all the my goodness technical

3691
02:15:14,550 --> 02:15:12,480
issues we had in the beginning i think

3692
02:15:16,390 --> 02:15:14,560
it took like 40 minutes to get going you

3693
02:15:17,830 --> 02:15:16,400
guys are extremely patient and we love

3694
02:15:19,030 --> 02:15:17,840
the support that you guys showed us each

3695
02:15:20,950 --> 02:15:19,040
and every week

3696
02:15:22,310 --> 02:15:20,960
i'll make sure i get it going here

3697
02:15:24,390 --> 02:15:22,320
because we don't want to miss lynne

3698
02:15:25,350 --> 02:15:24,400
wellington and sor over there so i will

3699
02:15:26,550 --> 02:15:25,360
see a bunch of you over there in the

3700
02:15:28,149 --> 02:15:26,560
chat tonight

3701
02:15:29,910 --> 02:15:28,159
um if you guys could before you get out

3702
02:15:31,910 --> 02:15:29,920
of here if you haven't subscribed please

3703
02:15:33,109 --> 02:15:31,920
subscribe we'd love it if you want to

3704
02:15:35,350 --> 02:15:33,119
please go for it if you don't want to

3705
02:15:37,270 --> 02:15:35,360
that's okay life's free do do as you

3706
02:15:38,790 --> 02:15:37,280
will is it and then like i said thumbs

3707
02:15:40,470 --> 02:15:38,800
up or thumbs down and then tune in for

3708
02:15:42,229 --> 02:15:40,480
me next week i will have ashley from

3709
02:15:44,790 --> 02:15:42,239
wednesdays we talk weird

3710
02:15:46,870 --> 02:15:44,800
and she has got her own special kind of

3711
02:15:48,709 --> 02:15:46,880
weird that i just cannot describe

3712
02:15:50,069 --> 02:15:48,719
it is her thing and you will see and you

3713
02:15:52,629 --> 02:15:50,079
will know what i'm talking about and i

3714
02:15:55,350 --> 02:15:52,639
love it i love keeping things weird

3715
02:15:57,589 --> 02:15:55,360
speaking of weird as i always say

3716
02:15:59,430 --> 02:15:57,599
when we're ending the show here guys

3717
02:16:01,790 --> 02:15:59,440
stay curious

3718
02:16:04,310 --> 02:16:01,800
and keep it weird

3719
02:16:06,470 --> 02:16:04,320
[Music]

3720
02:16:07,830 --> 02:16:06,480
i'm just kidding i'm back let's do it

3721
02:16:10,069 --> 02:16:07,840
again we'll rewind that that'll be

3722
02:16:11,830 --> 02:16:10,079
edited out no problem in the the

3723
02:16:13,350 --> 02:16:11,840
the podcast part will be super clean all

3724
02:16:14,390 --> 02:16:13,360
right let's try this again retake nobody

3725
02:16:16,950 --> 02:16:14,400
heard the last two seconds we're gonna

3726
02:16:18,550 --> 02:16:16,960
do it again as always guys

3727
02:16:21,790 --> 02:16:18,560
stay curious

3728
02:16:56,459 --> 02:16:21,800
and keep it weird